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More Cardio, Less Food, Still Gaining: Your Midlife Fitness Do-over with Natalie Jill

6/15/20261 hr 8 min

If you’ve been eating less, exercising more, and still experiencing unwanted body changes, this episode is for you. Natalie Jill, a Licensed Master Sports Nutritionist and functional fitness trainer, joins Dr. Stephanie for a peer-to-peer conversation between two women in the fitness industry who have seen the same broken patterns and concluded that the plan most women follow is not suitable for them.

Natalie’s journey from rock bottom to 13 magazine covers in her 40s and 50s was not due to a better diet plan, but rather a complete overhaul of her False Assumed Truths (F.A.T.). She discusses the mechanics behind why chronic cardio is counterproductive in midlife, the accelerating bone loss caused by ellipticals, the falsehood of three sets of twelve, and the necessity of changing beliefs before any protocol can work.

This rare episode features two practitioners in the same space, with the same audience, comparing notes honestly.

Episode Overview:
(0:00) Intro/Teaser
(1:08) Cardio vs. Lifting, Body Weight Training & the Supplement Swap
(7:52) The Best Thing That Happened to My Body After 40
(14:44) From Rock Bottom to 13 Magazine Covers
(28:45) The Fitness Industry Did Midlife Women Dirty
(34:00) Why Everything Works in Your 20s
(36:20) The Problem with Cardio Machines, Calorie Counts & the Elliptical
(43:10) Low Impact Is Killing Your Bones
(49:15) False Assumed Truths: The Belief System Running in the Background of Every Midlife Woman
((56:20) Is Menopause Weight Gain Inevitable?
(1:01:00) GLP-1s, Muscle Loss & Why There Is No Easy Button
(1:06:20) This Is Why I Lift
(1:09:26) What a Real Training Week Actually Looks Like
(1:12:37) After Party: Stephanie's Highlights

Resources mentioned in this episode: https://drstephanieestima.com/podcasts/ep473

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First 90 seconds
  1. Stephanie Estima· Host0:00

    Cardio or lifting? You can only choose one. Go.

  2. Natalie Jill· Guest0:02

    Oh, lifting. For sure lifting.

  3. Stephanie Estima· Host0:04

    Absolutely.

  4. Natalie Jill· Guest0:05

    I agree. I would say lifting all day every day.

  5. Stephanie Estima· Host0:08

    Okay. A fitness rule that you used to teach that you now think is doing more harm than good.

  6. Natalie Jill· Guest0:13

    Oh, gosh, there's a lot, but if I had to pick one, body weight only. Like pull- They're body weight exercises you mean? Body weight exercises.

  7. Stephanie Estima· Host0:19

    Okay.

  8. Natalie Jill· Guest0:19

    Yes.

  9. Stephanie Estima· Host0:19

    Okay, okay. Mm-hmm.

  10. Natalie Jill· Guest0:20

    I, I do intense body weight. I could say that a pull-up, a chin-up, dips. Those things are intense, and they are challenging, so you can build a body. However, you cannot- Hmm ... build a strong lower half, strong glutes, strong legs with body weight only. You can look nice, but it's not going to build the muscle we need.

  11. Stephanie Estima· Host0:37

    Biggest thing women waste their time and money on in midlife.

  12. Natalie Jill· Guest0:41

    Trying to be skinny.

  13. Stephanie Estima· Host0:43

    Ooh.

  14. Natalie Jill· Guest0:44

    First of all, skinny is so subjective. Like, what does that even mean? And what's the ultimate goal? I understand if you wanna be fit. I understand if you wanna be strong. I understand if you wanna be healthy. Skinny is a weird word to me.

  15. Stephanie Estima· Host0:57

    Okay. What is a supplement you used to take religiously that you've completely stopped?

  16. Natalie Jill· Guest1:01

    Protein powder. I'm not against protein powder.

  17. Stephanie Estima· Host1:03

    Yeah.

  18. Natalie Jill· Guest1:03

    I'm just a fan of whole, real, natural foods first.

  19. Stephanie Estima· Host1:06

    Yeah, for me, I'd say it's the protein bars.

  20. Natalie Jill· Guest1:08

    Yeah.

  21. Stephanie Estima· Host1:08

    And, yeah, it just- Oh, I used to make protein pancakes.

  22. Natalie Jill· Guest1:10

    What was I doing? [laughs] Like, I would take like- Oh my God ... oatmeal and eggs and protein- I did the same.

  23. Stephanie Estima· Host1:14

    Oh my God ...

  24. Natalie Jill· Guest1:15

    and eat them all day long.

  25. Stephanie Estima· Host1:15

    I used to do the same. Oh.

  26. Natalie Jill· Guest1:17

    They didn't taste good. Why, I think we were just trying to make ourselves think they did.

  27. Stephanie Estima· Host1:20

    Yeah. [upbeat music] Hello, my friends. Welcome to another episode of Better with Dr.

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