This Messy, Gorgeous Love—a Conversation with Tara and Devon and Nico Hase
4/9/20261 hr 13 min
Tara is joined by two longtime friends and wonderful teachers, Devon and Nico Hase, to explore their recent book, This Messy, Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist Guide to Lasting Partnership. This refreshingly real and relatable book offers guidance for anyone wanting to deepen love in their relationships. Drawing from their own lived experience—with humor, humility, and insight—Devon and Nico reveal how partnership can be both challenging and profoundly transformative.
In this conversation, they explore what truly supports a deep and loving partnership: how to meet conflict and reactivity, how practice comes alive in everyday moments, how to bring mindful presence into sexuality, and how reflecting on impermanence can deepen intimacy. While centered on intimate partners, the teachings speak to the whole field of our relationships.
Our introduction music is from "Opening" by Adrienne Torf, © 2025 ABT Music
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[gentle music] Welcome, friends, to the Tara Brach Podcast. I'm so glad you're here. Each week, I share teachings and guided meditations to help us awaken our hearts and bring healing to our world. You can learn more or support this offering by visiting tarabrach.com, where you can also join our email list. Now, let's explore together the many ways we can live from the love and presence that's our deepest essence. [gentle music] Namaste. [bowl rings] Namaste. Welcome, friends. Today, I'm excited to introduce you to two teachers who are also very dear friends and colleagues. I've, I've known them for decades and really love them. This is Devin and Nico Haja. And they've both served as mentors in our teacher