‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 3: Differing Visions of an A.I. Future
6/19/202656 min
We’re back with our final installment from Hard Fork Live, recorded at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco. In this episode, we’re joined by Sayash Kapoor and Daniel Kokotajlo to talk about their differing visions of A.I. transformation: why Sayash thinks A.I. will diffuse throughout society like a “normal” technology, and why Daniel thinks an unprecedented acceleration is just around the corner. Then we’re joined by George Ekas from Toborlife AI, along with his dancing robot Toby. Finally, the podcaster Dwarkesh Patel drops by, and we take a few questions from the live audience.
Guests:
- Sayash Kapoor, an A.I. researcher at Princeton University and a co-author of the newsletter “AI as Normal Technology”
- Daniel Kokotajlo, the executive director of the AI Futures Project and a co-author of “AI 2027”
- George Ekas, the director of engineering at Toberlife AI
- Dwarkesh Patel, a tech podcaster
Additional Reading:
- This A.I. Forecast Predicts Storms Ahead
- AI as Normal Technology
- Common Ground Between AI 2027 & AI as Normal Technology
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Kevin Roose· Host0:45
[upbeat music] Well, Casey, we are still on our annual summer vacation, and can you believe there is yet more amazing stuff from Hard Fork Live that we have not shared with our podcast listeners?
Casey Newton· Host1:16
There is. In particular, we had a really fun discussion at the event between Daniel Cocotello and Sayash Kapoor, who have somewhat different views of how fast the AI conversation is gonna go. We've heard them debate before. We wanted to sort of have an updated