Exercise Science Podcast Coming Spring 2026
5/21/20263 min
Kinesiology professor Martin Gibala is the worldwide expert on time-efficient cardio. Kinesiology professor Stuart Phillips is the global expert on strength, muscle development and protein. In Exercise Science, these two friends and colleagues translate the world of exercise science for the rest of us — separating the hype from the hard evidence.
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First 90 secondsStuart Phillips· Host0:00
Y- have you guys met Marty? Have you- No ... so have you, have you been to his office? There's organized and clean, and then there's Marty Gabala organized and clean.
Martin Gibala· Host0:08
[laughs] I think it would be fantastic to have a segment that's called Stu's Rant, because invariably Stu gets upset about something, and we can just let him rant a little bit on a particular topic.
Stuart Phillips· Host0:19
[upbeat music] How strong can we, can we really get?
Martin Gibala· Host0:30
Yeah.
Stuart Phillips· Host0:30
How much muscle can we get? This is the real deal.
Martin Gibala· Host0:32
Yes.
Stuart Phillips· Host0:33
And w- we, we think we're the right people to talk about it.
Martin Gibala· Host0:36
Yeah. If you conflate zone two with moderate intensity training- Yes ... there's a ton of evidence- Yeah ... on the benefits of that.
Stuart Phillips· Host0:44
Yeah.
Martin Gibala· Host0:44
There's almost zero research- Yeah ... on zone two.
Stuart Phillips· Host0:47
Yeah. I met Marty Gabala a long time before we became colleagues. Uh, Marty had hair, [laughs] uh, at the time, and he was doing some stuff related to muscle ultra-structural damage.
Martin Gibala· Host0:59
Both of us had left post-doctoral opportunities elsewhere to come back to McMaster because we'd heard that a position might be coming available here, and they hired both of us literally on the same day, and we've shared a laboratory ever since.
Stuart Phillips· Host1:15
Marty's one of the top people in the world as far as high intensity interval training is concerned. He's it. He's, he's Mr. HIIT. Marty would be known as a, a tremendously rigorous scientist, great integrity.
Martin Gibala· Host1:28
Stu's a major player