'You're OBSESSED With Gay People!' Michael Knowles Pride Debate + Andrew Wilson vs Lauren Southern
6/5/202651 min
Lauren Southern was once one of the most influential figures in the online alt-right movement. Her outspoken views on feminism, immigration and free speech earned her a massive following, while her activism and commentary made headlines around the world. After stepping away from politics to embrace a traditional family life, Southern is now reassessing the movements and ideas that helped make her famous. In her new book, This Is Not Real Wife, Southern takes aim at the manosphere, the "trad wife" phenomenon, and the online culture she says shaped a generation of young men and women. Her critics accuse her of abandoning the movement she once championed, while her supporters argue she is exposing uncomfortable truths. She joins Uncensored to debate christian Andrew Wilson on the issue. Then; It's Pride Month - so it only made sense to bring Uncensored's resident LGBTQIA2S+ community member James Barr in to debate conservative political commentator Michael Knowles... 00:00 Introduction 01:16 Lauren Southern and Andrew Wilson debate begins 03:22 Lauren on protesting at a ‘Slutwalk’ when she was 19 05:41 Lauren on life as a ‘trad wife’ 08:22 Andrew Wilson’s take on Lauren Southern’s beliefs 15:51 Traditionalism 17:12 The ‘Manosphere’ and the likes of Andrew Tate 20:00 Lauren on growing up in an evangelical family 21:45 Andrew Wilson on religion and the ideas of redemption 25:27 Lauren on being a woman and her place in society 27:43 Andrew Wilson’s conclusion 29:59 Piers asks Lauren “would you consider yourself a feminist?” 30:46 Piers Morgan’s monologue on Pride Month 32:00 James Barr and Michael Knowles debate begins 42:00 James Barr on the importance of Pride Month 43:33 Does James Barr know what LGBTQIA2S+ even means? 44:58 Love, s*x and deviance 48:17 Arsenal celebrating Pride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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First 90 secondsSpeaker 00:00
[wind blows] At the North Face, it's never just a hike, not if you're stuck on the same old trail. It's your chance to unearth a new kind of trail, [water rushes] wide open and yours to define, an opportunity to become part of something bigger and wilder. What will you find out there? [bell rings] The North Face: never stop exploring [gentle music] [rock music] They're larpers like Andrew Tate.
Andrew Wilson· Guest0:31
Who? Who is the larper?
Lauren Southern· Guest0:32
They're advocates- Andrew Tate's not a traditionalist.
Andrew Wilson· Guest0:34
Who are the traditionalists- You- ... specifically who are advocating these things? And you're attacking- You don't think there's anyone online that's advocating- Name them ...
Lauren Southern· Guest0:41
don't go- Name them.
Andrew Wilson· Guest0:42
Oh.
Piers Morgan· Host0:42
Why do you get a month? Why, why gay people?
James Barr· Guest0:45
Well, it's not just gay people, it's LGBTQ+ people.
Piers Morgan· Host0:47
No, it's LGBTQIA2SL+. We're celebrating something- [laughs] ... you have no idea what you're celebrating.
James Barr· Guest0:55
We're celebrating the interest- I'm not celeb- Michael is more obsessed with gay people than even I am, and I sleep with men. 20 years.
Piers Morgan· Host1:00
Well, do you think he's a deviant for being gay?
Andrew Wilson· Guest1:02
Yeah, I'm a deviant, yeah.
James Barr· Guest1:03
What I think is happening here is that you're- I've learned so much about myself ... you are afraid of your own positive homosexual feelings.
Piers Morgan· Host1:09
You know what I mean?
James Barr· Guest1:09
I'd love, Piers, to celebrate your Arsenal win.
Lauren Southern· Guest1:12
Yeah.
James Barr· Guest1:12
And I'm very proud of the guys for- Yeah ... celebrating Pride.
Piers Morgan· Host1:15
Yeah, I do.
James Barr· Guest1:16
So any time you wanna take me up the arsenal, I'm ready.
Piers Morgan· Host1:18
[laughs] [laughs] Lauren Southern was an early icon of the online alt-right movement. Her explosive views on feminism, immigration,