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Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley

You Are Not Thinking Big Enough About AI

6/23/20261 hr 6 min

You think you understand AI. I promise you don't. Most founders are missing the real opportunity with it.

Bryan McAnulty joins me to level-set. He's an AI builder and the founder of Heights Platform and LatchLoop. Bryan launched the first autonomous AI coach back in 2023. He knows where AI sits right now. He lives it every day.

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The biggest problem, he says, is that people aren't thinking big enough. We break down what an AI loop is. We talk about "service as a software." That means you sell the outcome, not the tool. Bryan explains how AI helps you see around corners. He gives real examples on customer retention.

I share my own $400 AI app experiment. I built "Black Ink," a finance tool for solopreneurs. Then I killed it on purpose. I tell you why it was worth every dollar.

We also cover why taste and judgment still win. You can outsource your work. You can't outsource your understanding. The future is here. It is not evenly distributed. This conversation will change how you approach AI in your business. It might even crack open a book inside you.

Bryan McAnulty builds real AI products for a living. He founded Heights Platform and LatchLoop. He shipped the first autonomous AI coach in 2023. His takes come from building, not theorizing.

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Clips

Thirty-Six Years per Month
Why Not Build Google?
We’re Thinking Too Small
Outsource Work, Not Understanding
Taste Beats Pure Execution
AI Interviewed Me Six Hours
Models Live One Prompt Long

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Bryan McAnulty· Guest0:00

    The biggest problem that I'm seeing right now is that people are just not thinking big enough.

  2. Ryan Hanley· Host0:03

    AI is going to be a net positive long term for us. How do we think bigger?

  3. Bryan McAnulty· Guest0:09

    It would take eight hours of reading per day for about thirty-six years to read what happened in one month. Why can't we just build the next Google? The work itself can be performed by these AI agents, but the ideas, the, the taste, the reasons behind what we're doing, that is still what we have to communicate.

  4. Ryan Hanley· Host0:25

    I don't know that there's a better tool out there for extracting information out of your own mind than being interviewed by AI.

  5. Bryan McAnulty· Guest0:30

    Uh, with AI, you can outsource your work, but you can't outsource your understanding.

  6. Ryan Hanley· Host0:34

    [upbeat music] So you're not just someone who is using AI to build. You have this very unique business that you built in Lash Loop where you're actually helping other people build with AI as well. And if we're gonna have a conversation about AI, which everybody seems to be doing, I think it's important that we kinda level set on, like, where are we right now? Before we start talking about where we can go in the future and what a founder should be doing, shouldn't, how they should be looking at it, how things-- where you see things going down the road. Like, what is the baseline reality of what a founder should expect in implementing AI into their business? And let's, let's assume, let's take two cases here as you answer this question. One is, say,

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