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yep, boyfriends are still embarrassing (ft Chanté Joseph)

3/19/202637 min

Omggg hi! 

We’re so, so haaapppy to be joined today by the brilliant writer and social commentator, Chanté Joseph, everybodyyyyy! 

Late last year, Chanté’s viral Vogue article: Is having a boyfriend embarrassing now?, completely took off. Over night, Chanté gained hundreds of thousands of followers and was met with some pretty wild backlash for her honest thoughts.

 

In today’s episode, we talk to Chanté about the public’s response to her article, plus her take on situationships, heteropessimism and how to date in 2026 without...

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  1. Charlotte Why· Host0:00

    [upbeat music] Shameless Media.

  2. Annabel Lee· Host0:05

    This episode of Everybody Has a Secret is brought to you by Garnier. Get salon quality sleek hair at home with the Garnier Fructis Keratin Sleek range. [upbeat music] Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Everybody Has a Secret. My name is Annabel Lee, and hello to my wonderful co-host, Charlotte Why.

  3. Charlotte Why· Host0:41

    Hi, Annabel.

  4. Annabel Lee· Host0:42

    Hey, Shu. And today we're not joined by Producer Rubes. We are actually joined by the incredible writer and social commentator, Chante Joseph.

  5. Chanté Joseph· Guest0:51

    Yay.

  6. Annabel Lee· Host0:52

    [clapping] Welcome to the world. [laughs] You're actually here in Australia from the UK.

  7. Chanté Joseph· Guest0:57

    Yes, I am.

  8. Annabel Lee· Host0:58

    You just touched down in Melbourne a few days ago, I believe.

  9. Chanté Joseph· Guest1:00

    Yes.

  10. Annabel Lee· Host1:00

    How are you finding things?

  11. Chanté Joseph· Guest1:01

    Um, absolutely loving it. Australia is a big place.

  12. Annabel Lee· Host1:05

    Totally.

  13. Chanté Joseph· Guest1:06

    And I don't think my brain actually comprehended how huge it was until I got here. And I would talk to people, and they'd be like, "Yeah, you can drive four hours and you'll still be in Sydney." I'd be like, "You could drive four hours from London and you're gonna be, like, in the sea, bro. What the hell?"

  14. Annabel Lee· Host1:16

    Yeah.

  15. Charlotte Why· Host1:17

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  16. Chanté Joseph· Guest1:18

    Like, h- it- it's massive here. Like, I am just so overwhelmed, and there's so much stuff to do as well- Yeah ... that I'm just like, "Ugh, I don't have enough time."

  17. Charlotte Why· Host1:26

    I love it.

  18. Annabel Lee· Host1:26

    Overstimulated?

  19. Chanté Joseph· Guest1:27

    100%.

  20. Annabel Lee· Host1:28

    [laughs] Yeah.

  21. Charlotte Why· Host1:29

    In a good

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