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Will Trump 'blink first' and end the war?

4/21/202615 min

Donald Trump went into the war with Iran thinking it would be over quickly.

More than seven weeks later there’s still no obvious off ramp, with uncertainty surrounding a second round of peace talks in Pakistan. 

Today, Nate Swanson, a former Iran negotiator in the Trump administration, on what the US president needs to do to end the war and reopen the Strait of Hormuz 

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Nate Swanson, former Iran negotiator in the Trump administration and former director for Iran at the National Security Council during the Biden presidency. Resident senior fellow and director of the Iran Strategy Project at the Atlantic Council.

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    [upbeat music] Donald Trump went into the war with Iran thinking it would be over quickly. Now, more than seven weeks later, with a ceasefire about to end, there's still no obvious off-ramp, with uncertainty surrounding a second round of peace talks in Pakistan. Today, a former Iran negotiator in the Trump administration, Nate Swanson, on what the US president needs to do to end the war and reopen the Strait of Hormuz. I'm Sam Hawley on Gadigal Land in Sydney. This is ABC News Daily.

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