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Will the US and Iran make a deal (again)?

4/22/202626 min

In the midst of bluffs, empty threats and broken promises, Trump has struggled to find any leverage over the Iranian regime he has declared war on, so why is he so confident he can make a better deal than Obama did back in 2015?

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  1. Speaker 00:00

    [upbeat music] ABC Listen: podcasts, radio, news, music, and more [whimsical music] Hello, I'm Annabel Crabb.

  2. Annabel Crabb0:09

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  3. Matt Bevan· Host0:41

    If you happen to be wandering through just the right corridor of the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City on the 18th of September, 2013, [gentle music] you would've seen quite a bizarre sight: two high-ranking American diplomats desperately trying to rip a framed photograph off the wall. The officials were these two men Bill Burns is someone who has worked on the Iran issue for several years.

  4. Speaker 3· Soundbite1:10

    Jake Sullivan is someone who is really widely respected at the White House and at the State Department They would later go on to become CIA director and national security advisor in the Biden administration.

  5. Matt Bevan· Host1:21

    But this particular moment, their main concern was getting this picture off the wall. Outside, the streets of New

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