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Will the Real JD Vance Please Stand Up?

6/20/202640 min

In JD Vance’s second memoir, “Communion,” the vice president reveals himself to be a deeply anxious person searching for certainty, the Opinion national politics correspondent Michelle Cottle argues. In this conversation with the contributor E.J. Dionne Jr. and the columnist Carlos Lozada, the three discuss the ways in which Vance is courting potential constituencies and positioning himself as the next Republican presidential nominee. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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First 90 seconds

  1. Speaker 10:00

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  2. E.J. Dionne Jr.· Guest0:31

    I guess he really has become Catholic. I happen to like the line, "But I found liberation in guilt." Um, and so I said, "Hey, he's the real deal."

  3. Carlos Lozada· Guest0:42

    Welcome. Welcome, JD.

  4. E.J. Dionne Jr.· Guest0:43

    Yeah. [laughs] Right.

  5. Michelle Cottle· Host0:45

    [upbeat music] I'm Michelle Cottle. I cover national politics for New York Times Opinion, and this week I am here with two of my favorite people, columnist Carlos Lozada and contributing writer E.J. Dionne. Guys, it is so fantastic to see you.

  6. E.J. Dionne Jr.· Guest1:04

    Thank you.

  7. Carlos Lozada· Guest1:04

    Likewise. Good to be here.

  8. E.J. Dionne Jr.· Guest1:05

    I bet you say that to all your favorite people.

  9. Michelle Cottle· Host1:08

    [laughs] I, I cannot confirm- Yeah ... nor deny.

  10. Carlos Lozada· Guest1:10

    How many favorites can you really have?

  11. Michelle Cottle· Host1:12

    [sighs] I'm not taking your abuse. I'm not. I take it all back. I hate you both. Uh, but while I hate you both, I am extremely excited to talk to you guys this week because we're gonna dig in to Vice President JD Vance's new memoir, Communion. It's all about Vance's faith

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