Why Ending Roe Wasn’t Enough for the Pro-Life Movement
2/5/20261 hr 2 min
Nearly four years after Roe v. Wade was overturned, where is the pro-life movement setting its sights? That’s what I wanted to know from the activist Lila Rose. We spoke last month in front of a live audience at the Catholic University of America. We debated whether her cause was prepared for the fall of Roe and whether abortion still matters at all to the right.
- 01:55 - Live Action and undercover activism
- 05:53 - Pro-Life 101 and S.L.E.D.
- 13:36 - “The mistake of feminism”
- 17:02 - Pro-family policy
- 22:47 - The political landscape after Roe
- 42:35 - The pro-life movement beyond politics
- 47:39 - The medical “zone of uncertainty”
- 53:53 - Why should women be pro-life?
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
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First 90 secondsRoss Douthat· Host0:00
[upbeat music] From New York Times Opinion, I'm Ross Douthat, and this is Interesting Times. [upbeat music] This week, we're bringing you something a little bit different. Last month, I spoke with the pro-life activist Lila Rose, in front of a live audience at the Catholic University of America. We were there to talk about the future of the pro-life movement, and the students in attendance had a lot of questions. My question has to do with the collapse of marriage.
Lila Rose· Guest0:46
I wanted to ask about IVF, and specifically, how we should go about resolving that. The fundamental question is, when does life begin?
Ross Douthat· Host0:53
I wanted to ask about, I guess, the future of the pro-life movement. And I had my own questions, too. Was the pro-life movement really prepared for the fall of Roe v. Wade? Is Donald Trump actually a pro-life president? And in a society that's rapidly polarizing along gender lines, what does the pro-life movement have to say to young women in particular? We got into those and many other subjects, so here's my conversation with Lila Rose. [audience applauding] Lila Rose,