Where Will Trump Invade Next?
1/7/20261 hr 39 min
Tommy and Ben discuss: the fallout from the Trump administration’s strikes on Venezuela and kidnapping of President Nicolás Maduro, why President Trump chose Maduro’s VP Delcy Rodríguez to run the country instead of opposition leader María Corina Machado, how the DOJ’s new indictment of Maduro shows that the administration has been lying about him being the head of a drug cartel, and the comparisons between the Venezuela operation and the 1989 invasion of Panama to arrest Manuel Noriega. Then they dig into the (unfortunately named) “Donroe Doctrine” and what Trump’s embrace of regime change means for the world, including how seriously we should take his threats against Mexico, Colombia, Cuba, and Greenland. Finally, they explain why Iranians have been protesting in huge numbers for over a week, how serious of a threat the protests pose to the regime, and debate whether we should take seriously Trump’s threat to respond militarily if the regime kills protesters. Then Ben speaks to Representative Joaquin Castro (D-TX) about President Trump’s lack of transparency to Congress about the attack on Venezuela, how much it’s costing American taxpayers, and how Democrats are trying to stop him from future invasions.
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Welcome back to Pod Save the World. I'm Tommy Vietor.
Ben Rhodes· Host1:11
I'm Ben Rhodes.
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Uh, Ben, happy January 6th, fifth year anniversary. Feels like just yesterday you and I were rampaging- (sighs) Yeah. ... through the Capitol- Yeah. ... taking shits behind Pelosi's desk or whatever (laughs) we were doing, but- Still haven't found my Pence. Yeah. We've been looking for that guy for five years.
Ben Rhodes· Host1:27
(laughs) Yes. Still can't identify him.
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