What will Burnham's Britain actually look like?
6/23/202639 min
You’re going to hear from a staunch Burnham ally today - a blunt speaking man at the heart of his last leadership campaign - and an MP who recently lost the whip from Keir Starmer.
Can Karl Turner tell us what Andy Burnham thinks? And what he wants to do? And isn’t there hypocrisy in anointing another leader without going to the country first?
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Karl Turner· Guest0:28
This is a global production. This is the essential difference with Andy Burnham. He's normal. He can speak human. He's charismatic.
Jon Sopel· Host0:41
So I could go on of, of, of the things where Andy Burnham has said one thing and now he's kind of in full scale retreat as he, you know, he's become the MP for Makerfield and is the next prime minister.
Karl Turner· Guest0:49
Well, I don't... It will probably make the difference between saving the Labour Party from extinction.
Emily Maitlis· Host0:57
We don't know what his plans are for defense- Yeah ... or for welfare or for taxation. We don't know anything.
Karl Turner· Guest1:03
I don't feel sorry for a failed politician who's fucked it up. I'm afraid not. Thank you very much. Tatty bye. Farewell. It's been an absolute pleasure and a treat, and let us move on.
Emily Maitlis· Host1:16
We haven't yet heard directly from Andy Burnham, but we're wondering if this is what the Andy Burnham premiership might soon start to sound like.
Jon Sopel· Host1:26
That is the member of Parliament, Carl Turner, an ally