What if your horse could say no — and you actually let them? Elsa Sinclair Part 1
6/16/202657 min
What if your horse could say no — and you actually let them?
In this episode of The Noelle Floyd Podcast, Noelle sits down with horsewoman Elsa Sinclair, creator of Freedom Based Training and the documentary Taming Wild, for a conversation that quietly takes apart almost everything you've been taught about control. Elsa spent a year with an untouched mustang named Myrnah using no halter, no rope, no treats, and no pressure — just the freedom for the horse to walk away at any moment. What she discovered became Freedom Based Training, a method built on choice and trust instead of domination.
You'll hear how a single question from a student — "do you think they had a choice?" — sent Elsa looking for a way of being with horses that felt like peace and harmony rather than power. You'll follow her from a lonely childhood on a spirited Appaloosa to the offer she couldn't refuse that finally pushed her to test her wild idea on camera.
Along the way, Elsa reframes the everyday tools of horsemanship in ways that land far beyond the barn. You'll learn why she refuses to promise her horse a calm, "Buddha" version of herself, and what it means to simply behave well in the moment instead. You'll sit with her definition of trust as the willingness to suspend judgment, her 80/20 rule for how often you're allowed to get it wrong, and the story of Ari — the aloof stallion who needed no one and forced her to rethink her whole method. And you'll reach the idea that reorders the rest: that in a healthy herd, awareness replaces dominance, because dominance only shows up when no one was paying attention in the first place.
This is a slow, generous conversation about training horses without force — and about what changes in you when you give another being a real choice. Whether you ride, train, or simply love horses, you'll come away looking at connection, consent, and leadership differently.
Elsa Sinclair is a lifelong horsewoman, behavior researcher, and filmmaker. Her year with Myrnah became the award-winning documentary Taming Wild and, more recently, a memoir of the same name, and her Freedom Based Training method is now taught to students around the world.
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IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN
- The single question from a student that made Elsa stop and ask whether horses actually choose to be ridden
- Why she trains with no halter, rope, or treats — and what the horse's freedom to walk away forces you to get right
- The reason she refuses to promise her horse a calm, composed version of herself, and what she does instead
- How she defines trust as "the willingness to suspend judgment," plus the 80/20 rule for how often you're allowed to get it wrong
- What Ari, the aloof stallion who needed no one, taught her about reaching a horse who isn't interested in you
- Why she calls it the slowest training method on Earth, and the honest reason it isn't for everyone
- The herd-dynamics reframe that replaces dominance with awareness
To find out more about Elsa Sinclair: website | instagram | facebook | patreon
CHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS
[00:00] A surreal reunion and the wish list that started the road trip
[00:44] Elsa's origin story: Demi and "good buckers make good jumpers"
[05:51] The birth of Freedom Based Training: peace over domination
[09:02] The question that changed everything — do horses choose to be ridden?
[11:34] The offer she couldn't refuse, and a documentary called Taming Wild
[14:24] Training without tools: timing, curiosity, and day one with Myrnah
[18:35] Companionship as currency: matching, mirroring, and sensory association
[21:31] The promise she won't make: congruence over composure
[28:22] Showing up on a bad day, and what trust actually is
[34:32] Ari, the aloof stallion, and the 80/20 rule
[40:49] Why the slowest training method on Earth isn't for everyone
[47:00] Herd dynamics: replacing dominance with awareness
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First 90 secondsElsa Sinclair· Guest0:00
There are two choices. You can be the same as your friends, which is not distracting to them.
Noëlle Floyd· Host0:09
Mm-hmm.
Elsa Sinclair· Guest0:09
Or you can be different from your friends, which is distracting to them.
Noëlle Floyd· Host0:13
Yep.
Elsa Sinclair· Guest0:13
That's it. There are times in your horse's life where they don't like how they feel, and if you can give them a little distraction, you're helpful.
Noëlle Floyd· Host0:23
Most of us learn to ride horses the way we learn most things, by following someone else's rules, and somewhere along the way, without meaning to, we stopped asking whether the horse actually had a choice. Elsa Sinclair asked that question. It changed everything. Elsa is a horse trainer, author of Taming Wild, and the creator of Freedom-Based Training, a method she built from scratch because what she was looking for simply didn't exist. This is part one of our conversation, and it starts exactly where every great idea does, with a single question nobody had thought to ask yet. Before we begin today's episode, I'd love to ask for your support. The simplest way to support this podcast is to hit follow or subscribe wherever