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Ruby Hall· Host0:00

Hello, it's Ruby here. You may have recently listened to our Life Lessons episode with Shameless Media's Chief Commercial Officer, Rhiannon Joyce. Well, I've got some good news for you, 'cause if you wanna hear more from Rhi, you can actually tune into her episode with the amazing Emma Greade. It's out now. Head to The Stylish feed wherever you listen to check it out. You won't wanna miss it. Here's a quick teaser of Emma talking about how important it is for women to be in a community when it comes to building our careers. You mentioned in the book challenging the trope of #womenhelpingwomen.

Emma Grede· Soundbite0:32

Yeah.

Ruby Hall· Host0:32

And that was something that really piqued my interest whilst reading the book. I'd love you to share with our listeners why you think it is important, particularly in the workplace.

Emma Grede· Soundbite0:40

So I think that there is, right? Like, I think that the realities are, and there's a reason for this. There has been such a scarcity of opportunity for women in the workplace, that the kind of default notion has become, "If she's getting something over there, it's taking away from me." I think that we're pa- largely past that point right now, but still so much of the behavior that came from that moment that exists in the culture and in the workplace at large. So this idea that if somebody is getting a big pay rise, it's taking away from me. If a woman is given an opportunity over there, that's something that I could have had. And actually, what I want to do is, women are best when they're in community, and I don't just mean, like, when they're hanging out together. It's like when we're sharing information, but we don't share the right information. I will know everything. I can tell you what, like, you know, wax