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Jack Rhysider· Host0:00

So, you first came on my radar when I was researching a story. I think it was video game, uh, cheats.

Joe Tidy· Guest0:06

Mm.

Jack Rhysider· Host0:06

And I was like, trying desperately to find video game, uh, people who are selling video game cheats, and nobody wanted to talk with me on the record. I found a couple people that were just willing to chat only, but never like, audio. And then I found a, an interview you did with somebody who's just like, "Yeah, I, I sell video game cheats."

Joe Tidy· Guest0:25

(laughs) Yeah.

Jack Rhysider· Host0:25

And he's like, 14 or something. (laughs) And I'm like, "How did you find this guy?" And so ever since then, I've had just, uh, so much respect. And reading this book ha- is, is once again a testament of just how deep you can get into this community and reach these people. And so it really, hats off to your, uh, ability to, to infiltrate (laughs) the hacking world.

Joe Tidy· Guest0:45

Thank you very much. Yeah, it's, um, it's become something of a specialty, but I mean, really, I'm always surprised they want to talk, but they do. I think there is a, there is a thing in hacking and cyber crime where you, as well as the kind of anonymity that it brings, I think people like to brag and they like to show off.

Jack Rhysider· Host1:05

Yeah. Yeah, so, so, let, that, I think that leads us right into the first question which is, who are you and what do you do? And how'd you, and how'd you get there?

Joe Tidy· Guest1:13

Well, I'm, my name's Joe Taidi, and I'm the BBC's cyber correspondent. So, that means I cover hacking, cyber security, uh, data protection, online harms, AI, and a bit of crypto as well. And I, um, been working at the BBC now for about, I think it's