Tucker Debates Biotech CEO on Baby Customization, Eugenics, and God’s Existence
4/13/20261 hr 41 min
Kian Sadeghi, CEO of Nucleus Genomics, wants to help parents design their own babies, from height to IQ to personality traits. What happens to humanity when we have the power to tamper with life’s formula? Kian Sadeghi is the founder and CEO of Nucleus Genomics, a genetic testing company that screens embryos for disease and allows parents to choose the traits of their unborn child. He founded Nucleus in 2021. Kian has been named a Thiel Fellow, and Nucleus has raised more than $32 million from investors including Founders Fund, Seven Seven Six, and Samsung Next. Paid partnerships with: Cozy Earth: Luxury shouldn't be out of reach. Get up to 20% off at https://cozyearth.com/TUCKER Defend: Enter code "Tucker" for 20% off your purchase at https://defendcellcam.comTCN: NEW! Tucker Carlson Books presents Russell Brand’s ‘How to Become a Christian in 7 Days.’ Available only on https://tuckercarlsonbooks.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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First 90 secondsTucker Carlson· Host0:00
[intro music] Thanks for doing this. I appreciate it. I, I'll just say at the outset, which I told you off camera, I disagree with this conceptually, I think, but I'm also completely ignorant of the details.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest0:15
Yeah.
Tucker Carlson· Host0:16
So I, I kinda wanna know what this is before even asking you- Yeah ... questions about whether it's a good idea. Can you, can you just... I'll just stand back and let you explain what you're doing.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest0:25
Yeah. So first, thanks for having me on.
Tucker Carlson· Host0:27
Of course.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest0:27
Um, so patients, there's one way of reproducing, via IVF, right? So you can conceive naturally via sex, or maybe if you're infertile, or if you have some sort of hereditary disease, or for some other reason, you do IVF.
Tucker Carlson· Host0:39
Right.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest0:40
Um, when you do... Yeah.
Tucker Carlson· Host0:41
I'm sorry. I'm gonna... I specialize in dumb questions.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest0:43
Yeah.
Tucker Carlson· Host0:43
Can you just explain for people who don't know- What is IVF? ... crisply. Yeah.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest0:46
Yeah.
Tucker Carlson· Host0:46
What is IVF?
Kian Sadeghi· Guest0:46
IVF stands for in vitro fertilization.
Tucker Carlson· Host0:48
Yes.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest0:48
So basically, imagine the egg and the sperm, right, the foundation of life to make an embryo. It's basically putting those things together in a, in a clinic, right? Um, and then basically you take that, uh, embryo, and you transfer it into a woman, and then it would implant, and y- the woman's pregnant, and then- So conception takes place outside the womb? Correct.
Tucker Carlson· Host1:05
Okay.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest1:05
Yeah.
Tucker Carlson· Host1:05
Great.
Kian Sadeghi· Guest1:06
And so during this process of IVF, what you do is, today, even if Nucleus didn't exist, even if genetic optimization didn't exist, you make several embryos, okay? So when you're in an IVF clinic, you make several embryos. Uh, the amount of embryos you end up making, it varies, but you might have four or five. You actually do genetic testing on these embryos to identify things like chromosomal abnormalities, like Down syndrome, for example, right? So that's very commonplace. So that's done in basically