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Trump’s War of Choice Will Become a War of Regret

4/11/202630 min

Regardless of how the war with Iran ends, the damage to America’s reputation has already been done, the Opinion columnist Carlos Lozada argues. This week, he joins the contributing Opinion writer E.J. Dionne Jr. and the former “All Things Considered” host Robert Siegel to discuss Trump’s approach to power and the end of America’s role as the leader of the free world.

Thoughts? Email us at theopinions@nytimes.com.

This episode of “The Opinions” was produced by Derek Arthur. It was edited by Kaari Pitkin. Mixing by Carole Sabouraud. Video editing by Steph Khoury. The postproduction manager is Mike Puretz. Original music by Sonia Herrero and Carole Sabouraud. Fact-checking by Mary Marge Locker. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta and Kristina Samulewski. The director of Opinion Video is Jonah M. Kessel. The deputy director of Opinion Shows is Alison Bruzek. The director of Opinion Shows is Annie-Rose Strasser.

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  2. Speaker 10:28

    [upbeat music] This is The Opinions, a show that brings you a mix of voices from New York Times Opinion. You've heard the news. Here's what to make of it.

  3. Robert Siegel· Host0:40

    [upbeat music] Hi, I'm Robert Siegel, in conversation about politics with, as always, E.J. Dionne.

  4. E.J. Dionne Jr.· Guest0:56

    Great to be with you always, Robert.

  5. Robert Siegel· Host0:58

    And, uh, we're happy to welcome for the first time Times Opinion columnist Carlos Lozada.

  6. Carlos Lozada· Guest1:02

    Long time listener, first time caller. [laughs] Thrilled to, thrilled to be here.

  7. E.J. Dionne Jr.· Guest1:05

    Great to be with you, Carlos.

  8. Robert Siegel· Host1:07

    Uh, we have- Old colleague [laughs] ... lots to talk about today, but I want to start on the war in Iran, uh, which is said to be in a state of ceasefire at the time of this recording. So a quick question, uh, for both of you. First, E.J., uh, did the US just win a war, lose a war, or is it too soon to tell?

  9. E.J. Dionne Jr.· Guest1:23

    You know, if you really squint, you can say nobody won. Obviously, the US military

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