Trump’s Insane Green Card Policy Doesn’t Have to Be Legal to Work (w/ Doug Rand)
5/24/202626 min
Catherine Rampell welcomes former DHS official Doug Rand to take on Trump’s purposely chaotic new green card policy, why legal immigrants and Silicon Valley are panicking, and how the administration may be using confusion and fear to push people out of the country.
Listen to Doug Rand's podcast, 'The Melting Pod' — https://meltingpod.org/
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Catherine Rampell· Host0:44
Hey, everyone, I'm Catherine Rampell. I am the economics editor at The Bulwark and the author of the Receipts newsletter. I am delighted to be joined today by Doug Rand. He is a former DHS official, head of senior role at US Citizenship and Immigration Services, and he's also co-host of The Melting Pod Podcast. He is here to talk with us today about what the heck is going on with the Trump administration's immigration policies, specifically targeting people applying for green cards. Doug, thanks so much for joining me today.
Doug Rand· Guest1:18
Thanks for having me.
Catherine Rampell· Host1:19
So why don't we start with your just explaining what this news was this week pertaining to people applying for green cards.
Doug Rand· Guest1:28
Thanks, Catherine. Well, I have to say at