"TRAGIC And Obscene!" Is Henry Nowak's Death The New George Floyd? + Iran War Debate
6/3/20261 hr 10 min
The bodycam footage is difficult to watch. Eighteen-year-old Henry Nowak can be heard telling police officers "I can't breathe" as he lay dying after being stabbed. Despite his injuries, officers initially treated him as a suspect after Sikh man Vickrum Digwa, who had stabbed him with a religious knife, remained at the scene and accused him of carrying out a racist attack. The case has sparked outrage, raising questions about policing, race, and whether lessons drawn from past controversies have led to dangerous overcorrections. Critics argue that policies designed to address racial disparities have created a culture in which assumptions are made before the facts are known, while others warn against using a tragedy to inflame racial tensions. As anger grows, Henry's family have called for calm, urging people not to use his death to spread division or hatred. But protests have already erupted, politicians and activists are clashing over what happened, and the debate is rapidly becoming another front in Britain's culture wars. Piers Morgan is joined by host of The Michael Knowles Show, Michael Knowles, host of BET News, Marc Lamont Hill, author of The Left Hook newsletter, Wajahat Ali, host of Part of The Problem, Dave Smith, and host of History Uncensored, Bianca Nobilo, to discuss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Piers Morgan· Host0:27
[tense music] I've been stabbed.
Speaker 20:30
Top of that car there. Don't think you have, mate.
Piers Morgan· Host0:32
Oh, I can't breathe.
Michael Knowles· Guest0:34
Well, the parallels between the Henry Novak killing and George Floyd are undeniable, but the difference is this: Henry Novak actually was who the left pretended George Floyd out to be.
Dave Smith· Guest0:45
If there had been a situation where a Black kid was walking down the street and a white guy stabbed him to death, and then the cops handcuffed the Black dude while he was bleeding out and sided with the white dude who had just stabbed him to death, I don't think Mark would be up here saying, "Let's not make this a race issue."
Marc Lamont Hill· Guest1:03
This is an opportunity for us to think about policing different, uh, either reform or my tradition, abolition.
Piers Morgan· Host1:08
Mark, when you say abolition, are you actually advocating for abolishing the police altogether?
Marc Lamont Hill· Guest1:13
I am, yes.
Nigel Farage· Soundbite1:14
Right now you have Nigel Farage, and he said the following: "I suggest the rest of us respond to this with pure cold rage."
Piers Morgan· Host1:21
[tense music] "I can't breathe," the chilling words of 18-year-old student Henry Novak as he lay dying in handcuffs,