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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Tommy Lee

7/22/20261 hr 50 min

Tommy Lee (Tommyland Rides Again, The Dirt, Shout at the Devil) is the co-founder of Mötley Crüe, a legendary drummer, and rock icon. Tommy joins Armchair Expert to discuss growing up between Greece and California, finding refuge as an introvert behind a drum kit, and how ballet unexpectedly shaped his future as a performer. Tommy and Dax talk about dropping out of high school after landing a record deal, building Mötley Crüe from the Sunset Strip to worldwide fame, and the band's decision to get sober together before recording Dr. Feelgood. Tommy explains why fame can be profoundly isolating, how bonsai trees became his greatest form of meditation, and why the life people envy isn't always the life they're imagining.

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Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Dax Shepard· Host0:00

    Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, Experts on Expert. I'm Dax Shepard. I'm joined by Monica Padman.

  2. Speaker 20:05

    Hi.

  3. Dax Shepard· Host0:06

    Hi. What are you drinking?

  4. Speaker 20:07

    [laughs] [laughs] I'm drinking, I'm drinking a coffee.

  5. Dax Shepard· Host0:12

    Okay.

  6. Speaker 20:13

    But I don't want any more of it.

  7. Dax Shepard· Host0:16

    Okay.

  8. Speaker 20:16

    But I...

  9. Dax Shepard· Host0:16

    [sighs] Be- it's like a s- a, a blankie at this point.

  10. Speaker 20:20

    It's a safety blanket.

  11. Dax Shepard· Host0:21

    Yeah, that makes sense.

  12. Speaker 20:21

    And you know who needs a safety blanket?

  13. Dax Shepard· Host0:23

    Tommy Lee.

  14. Speaker 20:24

    Tommy Lee.

  15. Dax Shepard· Host0:25

    Tommy Lee. Tommy Lee is a musician. He is the co-founder and drummer of Mötley Crüe. He's, I mean, I think he was the most famous man in the '90s.

  16. Speaker 20:33

    I know.

  17. Dax Shepard· Host0:33

    His albums include Never a Dull Moment, Andro, Tommyland: The Ride, Shout at the Devil, Dr. Feelgood. His new album is out now, Tommyland Rides Again. I mean, this guy- Wow ... did it all, Monica.

  18. Speaker 20:50

    He really- [laughs] He has lived a life.

  19. Dax Shepard· Host0:53

    Yeah. Please enjoy Tommy Lee. We are supported by Airbnb. You know, Monica, I was just reminiscing recently about this trip I took to Muskoka a while back. Canada in the summer, it's just unbelievable. The lakes, the trees, all these gorgeous wooden boats everyone collects- Ooh ... around there. NHL players on the lake.

  20. Speaker 21:14

    Yeah.

  21. Dax Shepard· Host1:14

    What a place. It's just one of those places where you immediately feel your nervous system calm down.

  22. Speaker 21:18

    I do feel like every time you talk about that trip, you feel very at peace.

  23. Dax Shepard· Host1:22

    I really was. I think part of what makes a trip like that memorable is when you actually get to settle into a place. You start finding your rhythm, your

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