Tim Cook’s Legacy + The Future of U.B.I. With Andrew Yang + HatGPT
4/24/20261 hr 15 min
This week, Tim Cook announced he would step down as chief executive of Apple. We discuss what he got right and what he got wrong, and we offer some unsolicited advice for his replacement, John Ternus. Then, Andrew Yang joins us to discuss A.I.-powered job automation and why universal basic income may be making a comeback. And finally, we catch up on more recent tech news with a round of HatGPT.
Guest:
- Andrew Yang, chief executive of Noble Mobile and author of “Hey Yang, Where’s My Thousand Bucks?”
Additional Reading:
- Tim Cook Will Step Down as Apple C.E.O.
- Who Is John Ternus, Apple’s Low-Profile Leader?
- Why U.B.I. Is Making a Comeback
- His 2020 Campaign Message: The Robots Are Coming
- This Pasta Sauce Wants to Record Your Family
- Chinese Robot Beats Human Best Time in Half-Marathon, After a Stumble
- What Happens When A.I. Runs a Store in San Francisco?
- Meta to Start Capturing Employee Mouse Movements, Keystrokes for A.I. Training Data
- SpaceX Strikes Deal With Cursor for $60 Billion
- OpenAI Beefs Up ChatGPT’s Image Generation Model
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Kevin Roose· Host0:31
I'm going to Disney World this weekend.
Casey Newton· Host0:33
[gasps] You are?
Kevin Roose· Host0:35
Yes.
Casey Newton· Host0:35
That's very exciting. Have you been to Disney World before?
Kevin Roose· Host0:37
Uh, no, I've never been to Disney World before.
Casey Newton· Host0:39
That is very exciting.
Kevin Roose· Host0:40
And so I have been looking up facts about, uh, I'm a real, like, facts dad.
Casey Newton· Host0:46
Mm.
Kevin Roose· Host0:46
I like to read the signs, I like to have this- Yeah, our fact checker would disagree- [laughs] ...
Casey Newton· Host0:49
with that statement, but go on.
Kevin Roose· Host0:51
[laughs] And the most interesting thing that I learned about Disney World is the entire Magic Kingdom is elevated off ground level, and the first floor is all of these tunnels that, like, the workers use to, like, come and go and, like, move stuff around, so you are literally on the second floor.
Casey Newton· Host1:08
That is great news because my understanding is that all of Florida is sinking into the ocean. [laughs] And so I feel like that'll buy them some time.
Kevin Roose· Host1:15
I'm thinking about pivoting to becoming, like, a Disney adult. What do you, what do you think about that?
Casey Newton· Host1:20
It's so funny that you mention this because I went to Disneyland in December for the first time in over a decade, and I had so much fun that my fiance