Thoughts from the Shelter
3/1/202639 min
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Why does this experience of war with Iran feel entirely new and eerily familiar in the arc of Israeli life? In this emergency episode of For Heaven’s Sake, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi reflect on the strange, exhausting routines of life spent rushing in and out of shelters and the realization that these rituals have become a recurring feature of Israeli life.
Together, they explore what this moment reveals about Israeli vulnerability and resilience: the way decades of conflict have blurr...
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First 90 secondsDaniel Goodman0:00
[intro music] You are listening to an Ark Media podcast.
Donniel Hartman· Host0:06
I think that's one of the beauties of Israel, is how beautiful life is, and full of joy and meaning, and then there's this stop, and you remember that there's somebody who for-- you can't really fully understand, just once you wiped off the face of the earth. That's a thought from the shelter. [laughs] You know, like, all your denial systems are gone. All these myths of normalcy, and it's just we're in this crazy place.
Yossi Klein Halevi· Host0:38
When you go back into the mindset of the shelter, time becomes malleable.
Donniel Hartman· Host0:45
Right.
Yossi Klein Halevi· Host0:46
You never know what time of day it is. You forget the day of the week, and it all seems surreal.
Donniel Hartman· Host0:52
[news jingle] Hi, friends. This is Daniella Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi from the Shalom Hartman Institute, and this is our podcast, For Heaven's Sake, in collaboration with Ark Media. Today is Sunday, March first, but today is also the second day of our war with Iran. And in this special session, special edition, Yossi and I, we