These swing voters are sour on Trump, the economy and Iran war
6/18/202618 min
NPR reporters observed focus groups of 13 Wisconsin voters who backed former President Biden in 2020 and President Trump in 2024. We discuss what they say about President Trump, the economy, and the potential deal to end the Iran war.
This episode: voting correspondent Miles Parks, political correspondent Ashley Lopez, and senior national political correspondent Mara Liasson.
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Miles Parks· Host0:12
[upbeat music] Hey there. It's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Miles Parks, and this is Corey, a swing voter from Wisconsin, talking about Iran.
Rich Thau0:25
We essentially got nothing out of it. Um, it's hurt our economy and increased expenses for the everyday American, and it accomplished the square root of nothing.
Miles Parks· Host0:33
A new poll out today finds most voters are not happy with President Trump right now. We're gonna hear from some of those voters as part of our monthly Swing Voter check-in. I'm here with political correspondents Ashley Lopez and Mara Liasson. Hi, guys.
Ashley Lopez· Panelist0:46
Hey.
Mara Liasson· Panelist0:47
Hi there.
Miles Parks· Host0:47
So Ashley, the voters we're gonna hear from today are voters who voted for Joe Biden in 2020, Donald Trump in 2024. What else can you tell us about these people?
Ashley Lopez· Panelist0:55
Yeah. Besides the fact that they are all from Wisconsin, it's 13 voters that we talked to. Two people, uh, identified as Democrats. There was one Republican and 10 independents. Um, and these focus groups, by the way, were conducted by messaging and market research firms Engages and Sago. They partner with us as part of the Swing Voter project. And, uh, compared to last month, let's say, like, this was a little less conservative of a group because it was, like, you know, we had a couple Democrats and, and, um, and mostly independent voters, which are a really interesting group to hear from.
Mara Liasson· Panelist1:25
Well, also, just to point out, Wisconsin is a bluer battleground state.