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There's Been An Under-Discussion (with Natalie Haynes)

6/3/202636 min

Natalie Haynes joins Armando to look at the differing language used when discussing the benefits and risks of the AI revolution.

Is it just 'a thing' which is beyond debate? What does non-zero actually mean? And we examine the language of Tony Blair's argument, by taking it to its logical conclusion.

In the longer version, you will also hear the ramification of shouting at Harold Pinter, Peter Thiel's unimpeachable jury, and whether we're all living in Armando's diving helmet.

Got a strong message for Armando? Email us at strongmessagehere@bbc.co.uk

Sound editing: Chris Maclean Production Coordinator: Giulia Mazzu Executive Producer: Pete Strauss Recorded at The Sound Company

Produced by Gwyn Rhys Davies. A BBC Studios production for Radio 4.

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  4. Armando Iannucci· Host0:54

    [upbeat music] Hello, and welcome to Strong Message here from BBC Radio 4, a guide to the use and abuse of political language. I'm Armando Iannucci. I'm joined once again, back, uh, is Natalie Haynes. Hello.

  5. Natalie Haynes· Guest1:11

    Hello, hello.

  6. Armando Iannucci· Host1:12

    Hello. Uh, the phrase we're going to be looking at this week is, "There's been an under-discussion." [laughs] It's not a kind of... It's not a phrase everyone will recognize.

  7. Natalie Haynes· Guest1:20

    It's not a phrase anyone would use, is it? But, yeah.

  8. Armando Iannucci· Host1:22

    Except- We'll take it ... if you're in charge of an AI company.

  9. Natalie Haynes· Guest1:24

    Yep.

  10. Armando Iannucci· Host1:25

    Um, uh, it was used in a speech, a very recent speech by Anthropic's co-founder Jack Clark.

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