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The MAGA breakup: Why Tucker Carlson turned on Trump

4/29/202617 min

It was a relationship that saw both Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson rise to power.

Now, the Tucker-Trump bromance is officially over.

Conservative media powerhouse Tucker Carlson has offered an apology to voters for backing the president, as their relationship turned sour.

Today, Jason Zengerle, staff writer for the New Yorker, on the end of Tucker and Trump – and what it means for the MAGA movement.

 

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Guest: Staff writer for the New Yorker, Jason Zengerle

Photo: EPA/JUSTIN LANE

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Clips

Foreign policy splits them
What is MAGA, really?
Tucker’s 2028 ambitions
How much Trump loses
The voicemail that charmed
Tucker’s behind-the-scenes power
Mainstreaming conspiracy theories
Why elites preferred Tucker
A rare on-air reckoning

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Nicole Johnston· Host0:00

    [instrumental music] It was a relationship that saw both Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson rise to power.

  2. Jason Zengerle· Guest0:07

    You and I and everyone else who supported him, you wrote speeches for him, I campaigned for him, w- we're implicated in this for sure, in s- very small ways, but in real ways, you and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now.

  3. Nicole Johnston· Host0:21

    Now, the Tucker-Trump bromance is officially over.

  4. Jason Zengerle· Guest0:26

    So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with y- our own consciences. You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be.

  5. Nicole Johnston· Host0:35

    [instrumental music] Conservative media powerhouse Tucker Carlson has offered this apology to voters for backing the president as their relationship turned sour.

  6. Jason Zengerle· Guest0:48

    And I wanna say I'm sorry for misleading people. In- it was not intentional. That's all I'll say.

  7. Nicole Johnston· Host0:55

    I'm Nicole Johnston, and you're listening to 7AM. Today, Jason Zengerle, staff writer for The New Yorker, on the end of Tucker and Trump and what it means for the MAGA movement. It's Thursday, April 30. Jason, to start off, you met Tucker Carlson decades ago when you were an intern. He was a reporter. What

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