The line between reasonable and unacceptable bias
4/27/202654 min
This podcast is about testing the limits of fairness. It's about taking to heart the meaning behind "Beyond the Pale" — a phrase referring to ideas that are so outrageous it's impossible to deal with them in reasonable terms. Follow IDEAS producer Tom Howell as he covers uncomfortable terrain. When the time for ‘open-mindedness’ stops and prejudices become — possibly — a good thing. *This is the final episode in a series tackling the implications of bias. It originally aired on on June 8, 2022.
Guests in this episode:
Eduardo Mendieta is a philosophy professor at Pennsylvania State University. He edited the final book by Richard Rorty, Pragmatism as Anti-Authoritarianism.
Barbara Kay is a columnist at The National Post and The Epoch Times.
Misha Glouberman is co-author (with Sheila Heti) of The Chairs Are Where the People Go. He runs a negotiation course called How to Talk to People About Things.
Rahim Mohamed is a freelance writer and college instructor at Centre College in Danville, Kentucky. His opinion columns are published in the online newsletter, The Line.
Anne-Marie Pham is an executive director of the Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion.
Michael Bacon is a political theorist at Royal Holloway, University of London. His books include Pragmatism: An Introduction.
Martin Zibauer is from the Cosburn Park Lawn Bowling Club in Toronto, Ontario.
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Tom Howell0:29
This is a CBC podcast.
Martin Zibauer· Guest0:33
We want people to have fun.
John Tory· Soundbite0:37
This is something that needed to be condemned.
Rahim Mohamed· Guest0:40
So J.K. Rowling is- Although we don't, if I'm right, need a theory of rationality, we do need a narrative of maturation.
Anne-Marie Pham· Guest0:48
When I do presentations about bias, I often use my own experiences.
Nahlah Ayed· Host0:52
Welcome to Ideas. I'm Nala Ayed.
Speaker 5· Soundbite0:57
Concepts are, as Wittgenstein taught us, uses of words.
Anne-Marie Pham· Guest1:02
The consequences of not dealing with bias.
John Tory· Soundbite1:05
I've been around long enough to see ugly left-wing smear campaigns against Supreme Court nominees.
Rahim Mohamed· Guest1:12
Well, I, I'm very anti both sides of them.
Barbara Kay· Guest1:15
But the core values thing, I, you see, I, I was like sort of nodding and I was saying, "What's the difference between... Bias sounds like a bad word, but core values sounds like a good thing."
Nahlah Ayed· Host1:25
Today, the third in a series of documentaries