The Ethics of God (eternal hell, slavery, & permitted polygamy) w/Paul Copan - 098
4/22/20262 hr 10 min
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First 90 secondsTaylor Welch· Host0:00
Let's talk about hell Heaven begins in this life.
Paul Copan· Guest0:02
Hell begins in this life. People say, "Oh, there is no hell. I'm already experiencing hell." Well, you're experiencing a foretaste of that. He wants all to be saved. He'd love to be a Universalist.
Taylor Welch· Host0:10
Yeah But people simply say no to God, despite God's Herculean efforts to bring people into a relationship with himself.
Paul Copan· Guest0:17
If God is not wrathful, then God is not loving. When God is seeing people oppressed, when people tyrannize, people are being injured and harmed for no reason at all, if God isn't angered by these things, then that's not a loving God. People who don't want God in their lives, it's sort of like turning from a Smeagol into a Gollum, where they become increasingly diminished in their own humanity. Out of these angelic beings end up turning away from God, being in this perfect environment, being in the presence of God and so forth. Jesus said, "You are my friends if you do what I command you." [laughs] But we wouldn't say to Jesus- Sure ... "You're my friend if you do what I command you." We have to distinguish between what is descriptive and prescriptive. The Old Testament is a very poor advertising campaign for polygamy. Wherever you see polygamy, it's a disaster.
Taylor Welch· Host1:00
God could technically outlaw slavery back then. Why didn't he?
Paul Copan· Guest1:04
Well, hold on a minute. It says that if you strike your servant so that he dies, he will be avenged. That word avenged has to do with death penalty, my friends.
Taylor Welch· Host1:13
Hey, before you get into this one, I had so much fun with this. We have, uh, somebody in town who has written 60 books. He is a, um, creating master's programs on religion and philosophy. He's so well-studied, and we go into a lot of interesting topics. So just