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The Covid Origin Story: Lab Leak or Animal Outbreak? (Ep 1)

6/14/202639 min

Where does the CIA think the Covid-19 virus came from? And could it have been intentionally leaked as an act of biological warfare?

Listen as David and Gordon step inside the investigation as to where Covid came from.

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  1. David McCloskey· Host0:00

    [upbeat music] For exclusive interviews, bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series, first look at live show tickets, a weekly newsletter, and discounted books, join the Declassified club at therestisclassified.com.

  2. Gordon Corera· Host0:17

    [upbeat music] Where does the CIA think the COVID-19 virus came from, and could it have been intentionally leaked as an act of biological warfare? Well, welcome to The Rest Is Classified. I'm Gordon Corera.

  3. David McCloskey· Host0:37

    And I'm David McCloskey.

  4. Gordon Corera· Host0:39

    And David, we're starting a two-part series on the CIA and the wider US intelligence community's effort to determine the origin of the COVID pandemic. Now, this is a story which really did affect the world, and we're gonna take a particularly Rest Is Classified lens on it, aren't we, to try and look at this really explosive and politically contentious question, which is where did the virus come from that killed millions and crippled the world economy? [upbeat music] This episode is brought to you by HP.

  5. David McCloskey· Host1:20

    In intelligence work, it's rarely the obvious problem that causes failure. It's the overlooked detail or the flaw nobody quite solved, the kind of vulnerability

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