The Confidence Conversation We Need to Have with Scott Galloway
2/24/202655 min
Scott Galloway and I don’t always see the world the same way, but our friendly debates almost always lead us back to common ground. It’s probably why we enjoy talking to each other as much as we do.
If you haven’t heard my friend Scott’s name before, he’s known for being brilliant, provocative, and unapologetically himself. He’s a professor at NYU Stern School of Business, entrepreneur, bestselling author, and larger-than-life social commentator. In recent years, his work, which includes his new book Notes on Being a Man, has explored the challenges facing men t...
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First 90 secondsScott Galloway· Guest0:00
I had some [beep] up sense of masculinity when I was young where I never showed my emotions. Didn't cry between the ages of 29 and 44, didn't laugh out loud. Now I purposely try to train myself into laughing out loud, because 50% of having a good sense of humor is appreciating other people's cleverness.
Simon Sinek· Host0:14
I think learning to laugh, that's an expression of something you're feeling on the inside, I would argue is vulnerability.
Scott Galloway· Guest0:21
I think when you're a younger man, sometimes you have this belief that recognizing someone else is funny, acknowledging someone else's success, somehow takes away from your success.
Simon Sinek· Host0:34
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott Galloway· Guest0:35
That it's a zero-sum game. And what you realize as you get older is the guy who says to another guy, "Wow, you're so impressive," or laughs at his joke and says, "Wow, that was really funny," that's confidence.
Simon Sinek· Host0:47
Yes, you're describing confidence. It's 100%. That's all it is. Most of us have at least one friend who's got a total opposite personality to us. On paper, it shouldn't work, but for some reason it just does. That's me and Scott Galloway.
Scott Galloway· Guest1:03
Let's cause some trouble.
Simon Sinek· Host1:05
If you don't know Scott, he's a force of nature. A professor, entrepreneur, podcaster, best-selling author, who's built a reputation as a provocative social commentator, unafraid of triggering his audience, or me, or anyone listening to this podcast.
Scott Galloway· Guest1:20
And I'll get [beep] for this.
Simon Sinek· Host1:22
Recently, the masculinity crisis has been one of Scott's main focuses, which inspired his new book, Notes On Being a Man.