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The Bachelor Who Was Betrayed | BONUS

3/20/202628 min

Betrayal host Andrea Gunning does an exclusive interview from SXSW with Love Trapped host Stephani Young and its subject, former ABC's Bachelor star Clayton Echard. Andrea explores how Clayton’s journey on Love Trapped is very similar to the stories that frequently come up on Betrayal and how he is navigating his journey of growth after his personal betrayal experience. 

You can listen to the Love Trapped podcast here. New episodes release every Thursday. To see the exclusive video version of this interview, become a paid subscriber on the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com.

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First 90 seconds
  1. Clayton Echard· Guest0:00

    This is an iHeartPodcast. [upbeat digital music] Guaranteed human.

  2. Andrea Gunning· Host0:03

    Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Keir Gaines. This space is about Black men's experiences, having honest conversations that's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit of armor? It signals to the world that you not to be played with. And just because you have the capability, that does not mean that you need to. [digital swoosh] Listen to Learn the Hard Way on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

  3. Speaker 20:36

    [gentle music] In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Echard was accused of fathering twins, but the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.

  4. Speaker 3· Soundbite0:43

    You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct?

  5. Stephanie Young· Guest0:46

    I doctored the test once.

  6. Speaker 20:48

    It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. [tense music] Two more men who'd been through the same thing.

  7. Clayton Echard· Guest0:55

    Greg Gillespie and... Michael Mancini.

  8. Stephanie Young· Guest0:57

    My mind was blown.

  9. Speaker 20:58

    I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped.

  10. Clayton Echard· Guest1:02

    Laura, Scottsdale Police.

  11. Speaker 21:03

    As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to the Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

  12. Michael Easter1:14

    [upbeat music] 2%. That's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter, and on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world.

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