THE ADVANCED ECOLOGICAL APPROACH (Book 4) with Rob Gray (1 of 2)

John Mayer· Host0:00

[rock music] Welcome to Coach Your Brains Out, the show that explores learning and leadership from the top minds in volleyball and beyond, with your hosts, John Mayer and Billy Allen.

Billy Allen· Host0:13

All right. We're excited to welcome back to the show Professor Rob Gray, uh, the man who needs no introduction. So Rob, thanks for joining us once again.

Rob Gray· Guest0:22

My pleasure. My pleasure, guys. Happy to be here.

Billy Allen· Host0:25

Yeah, I think, um, I'm blown away that we... I think this is the fourth chance I've gotten to talk to you. I can remember the first time. I was nervous all day.

Rob Gray· Guest0:33

Oh, really?

Billy Allen· Host0:34

[laughs] I'm still nervous today. I'm ex- and also excited. [laughs] Um, but I love that you continue to write new books, 'cause it just gives us more of an excuse to, uh- To come back.

Rob Gray· Guest0:42

Yeah ...

Billy Allen· Host0:43

[laughs] get you back on. But I have, uh, book number four here.

Rob Gray· Guest0:46

Yeah. I don't know who... I've, I can't remember. I have the first one. Someone, one of the c- someone asked me, "Do you, you, would you ever write another one?" I was like, "Uh, I'm not sure." [laughs] That kind of- I remember you saying, and then you're like, "Well, I got one for a second one, but that's it."

Billy Allen· Host0:58

And then- Yeah ... yeah I'll p- I'll keep saying there's one more- [laughs] ...

Rob Gray· Guest1:00

one more forever, but we'll see.

Billy Allen· Host1:02

Yeah.

Rob Gray· Guest1:02

Yeah. No, I enjoy it a lot.

Billy Allen· Host1:04

Never, never ending.

Rob Gray· Guest1:05

Yeah.

Billy Allen· Host1:05

But we'll, we'll get more into that. I was curious, just before we get into the book, is there anything new you've been learning, studying, researching about recently?

Rob Gray· Guest1:15

Um, mostly I've been kind of tr- I'm trying to focus on reconciling some of the, uh, kind of the issues of kind of cognition, understanding. Like, understanding- Mm-hmm ... um, kind of memory.