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Talking Dateline: Out of the Darkness

7/8/202625 min

Andrea Canning sits down with Josh Mankiewicz to discuss his episode, “Out of the Darkness.” In 2016, Chacey Poynter called 911 in hysterics to report that her husband, Bob, a fire captain, had been fatally shot by a stranger on a Texas country road. When police arrived at the scene, they found a frantic Chacey covered in her husband’s blood. Investigators quickly surmised that her emotion and her story were far from genuine. Andrea and Josh discuss the intensity of Chacey’s reaction, captured on police body cam, as well as the role of life insurance policies can play in murders. Later, Josh shares a podcast-exclusive clip from his interview Bob’s mother. Then, in a podcast first, Josh invites Andrea to partake in a special Talking Dateline challenge.

 

Have a question for Talking Dateline? DM your audio or video to @DatelineNBC on social or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252. Your question could be featured in an upcoming episode.

 

Listen to the full episode of “Out of the Darkness” here: https://swap.fm/l/outofthedarkness

 

Listen to Josh’s episode “Poison” here: https://swap.fm/l/poison

 

Watch Andrea fight off sweat bees here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=324321878130485

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  3. Speaker 30:55

    [pensive music] Hi, everyone. I'm Andrea Canning, and we are talking Dateline. Our, uh, correspondent on this one is Josh Mankiewicz, and this is for his episode called Out of the Darkness.

  4. Speaker 41:12

    Hello.

  5. Speaker 31:13

    Let's talk Dateline, Josh. Hey, how are ya?

  6. Speaker 41:15

    I'm good. I'm ready.

  7. Speaker 31:17

    One housekeeping item. If you haven't seen it, you can watch the episode on Peacock or listen to it in the Dateline podcast feed and then come right back here. Also, we will have an extra clip from Josh's interview with the victim,

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