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“So that started this on the wrong trajectory to begin with”

5/22/202651 min

On this episode of AvTalk, we follow the NTSB’s thread as the agency holds two days of investigative hearings on the crash of UPS flight 2976, the MD-11 that crashed in Louisville after one of its engines separated from the wing. The FAA issues its first official response to the NTSB’S safety recommendations following the 2025 DCA mid-air collisions. And the NTSB calls for more realistic training of smoke in the cockpit scenarios after a 2023 incident.

A Croatia Airlines A220 suffers a runway excursion during a rejected takeoff in Split. Indian investigators will travel to Seattle in June...

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  1. Ian Petchenik· Host0:00

    [upbeat music] Hello, and welcome to episode 371 of AvTalk. I am Ian Petchenik, here as always with Jason Rabinowitz.

  2. Jason Rabinowitz· Host0:17

    Ian, welcome to summer.

  3. Ian Petchenik· Host0:19

    Welcome. [laughs] Oh, man. What a welcome, right?

  4. Jason Rabinowitz· Host0:23

    You know how I know it's summer?

  5. Ian Petchenik· Host0:25

    How do you know?

  6. Jason Rabinowitz· Host0:26

    I don't even have to judge by the disgustingly high temperature outside that you probably have in Chicago. I know we have here in New York. I know is following me all the way to Switzerland next week. Super happy about that. But the New York airports are in a state of absolute chaos, and it's not even just because of the sinkhole in LaGuardia's Runway 4-22. It's just because of this weather.

  7. Ian Petchenik· Host0:47

    Not just because of the sinkhole.

  8. Jason Rabinowitz· Host0:49

    Not just because of the sinkhole. [laughs] The sinkhole doesn't help. It hurts. But because there's a cloud, like, 500 miles away. So four-hour delays, it is what it is. That's how you know you're in summer.

  9. Ian Petchenik· Host1:01

    Well, you know, it's chaos theory. A grasshopper in Ohio rubs its wings together, and LaGuardia gets a sinkhole. That's how it goes, right?

  10. Jason Rabinowitz· Host1:10

    I'm pretty sure. Yeah.

  11. Ian Petchenik· Host1:12

    Okay.

  12. Jason Rabinowitz· Host1:12

    Don't know where exactly the sinkhole is, 'cause I see a lot of planes doing a lot of stuff at LaGuardia. But seems like they are avoiding falling into the hole, which is good.

  13. Ian Petchenik· Host1:21

    That's important. Not taxiing into the sinkhole is important and good.

  14. Jason Rabinowitz· Host1:26

    Yes. Is generally good practice.

  15. Ian Petchenik· Host1:29

    Yeah.

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