Simon Squibb: Dream vs. Goal
4/27/20261 hr 3 min
In this episode, Jan connects with entrepreneur and visionary Simon Squibb to dissect the fundamental difference between a dream and a goal. Simon, who went from being homeless at 15 to becoming a multi-millionaire, shares his radical philosophy on why "monetizing your dream" is the only path to true fulfillment. Together, they discuss the flaws of the modern education system, the trap of middle-class comfort, and why pure willpower often fails where deep-seated necessity succeeds. It is a raw, high-energy conversation about taking ownership of your life and turning "crazy" dreams into inevitable realities. Get Your Own CANYON GRAIL Ready to hit the gravel? Grab Jan’s bike of choice and save extra on your next adventure! Offer: Extra 5% OFF all Canyon Grail models. Bonus: This code stacks! It is valid even on top of already discounted bikes.*** Code: FRODENO5GRAIL Shop here: canyon.com PILLAR Performance provides science-backed, clinically dosed micronutrition designed specifically for endurance athletes. Their supplements focus on optimizing recovery, sleep, and immunity without unnecessary fillers. If you want to give it a try, use the code GOINGMENTAL at pillarperformance.shop — or, for North American listeners, at TheFeed.com. That’s GOINGMENTAL for 15% off your first purchase. ***Legal Terms & Conditions: This voucher code is valid online on www.canyon.com between 9 April 2026, 00:01 CET and 20 April 2026, 23:59 CET. The promotion applies a 5% discount to all models of the Grail bike family. It cannot be redeemed in conjunction with any other discount code and excludes Factory Outlet bikes. It cannot be redeemed in conjunction with bike leasing. The discount cannot be applied retroactively and applies only to products available at the time of purchase. Cannot be redeemed for cash and resale is prohibited. Canyon reserves the right to terminate or change the terms of this promotion at any time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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First 90 secondsJan Frodeno· Host0:00
[gentle music] The difference between a want and a need.
Simon Squibb· Guest0:06
Yeah, no one makes it if it's just something you want because everybody just wants it.
Jan Frodeno· Host0:09
Yeah.
Simon Squibb· Guest0:09
Everybody wants to be rich, everyone wants to be fit. I think you need to need it. If I was dating someone, I'd lose my six-pack, and then I broke up, within a short period of time, my six-pack would be back, right? So in other words, [laughs] I needed it and not just wanted it, right?
Jan Frodeno· Host0:21
[gentle music] Simon Squit. Squit Going Mental. You're somebody who's made dreaming popular. What's your dream?
Simon Squibb· Guest0:31
A dream is something you can say that can be very, very crazy, and a goal probably is a step-by-step thing. A 20-minute run today- Mm ... that, that's a goal. But my dream is to be able to run a triathlon. Martin Luther King, he didn't say he had a plan. He didn't say he had a goal. So my dream is to fix the education system. I sold my company, a company called Fluid, buy a really lovely house, buy a brand-new car, Porsche, and then I sat in that house with my Porsche outside the front, and I thought, "That's it. I've made it." And honestly, for the first six months, amazing. But it turns out I wasn't satisfied.
Jan Frodeno· Host1:09
Mm.
Simon Squibb· Guest1:09
I didn't have a point. What makes us happy is helping each other. Oxytocin is released when we help a fellow human because we're tribal, and that's what I've learned I wish everybody understood. Just take five minutes to help someone today. You'll see what I mean.
Jan Frodeno· Host1:21
You've made it in, from the world up. You started on your very own. What's there to fear?
Simon Squibb· Guest1:29
This