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Secret Podcast Preview: The Primary Was Over Before It Started

5/9/202624 min

The full episode is available exclusively to paid members of The Bulwark. You can join on Apple Podcasts, Substack or YouTube.

Sarah and JVL had a big show planned for you. Lots of different subjects. Important news. Funny stories. The whole nine.

And then everything derailed as they went SUPER deep on Graham Platner and the meta-debate about him. If you think Platner has electoral upside, you love Nazis. If you have concerns about Platner’s populism, you’re a closet Republican. The internet has spoken!

It’s a whole thing.

Also...

Clips

JVL rejects bad-faith critics
Drawing the Platner-Trump line
Calling out moral collapse
Rejecting the cultish vibes
Trump never apologized, escalated
Weatherman of public sentiment
Voters like her, won’t vote
Role reversal reading each other

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Speaker 10:00

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  9. JVL· Host0:45

    Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friend, Sarah Longwell, publisher of The Bulwark.

  10. Sarah Longwell· Host0:51

    What's up, JVL King?

  11. JVL· Host0:52

    Sarah, happy Friday.

  12. Sarah Longwell· Host0:54

    Happy birthday- Oh, thank you ... JVL.

  13. JVL· Host0:57

    Thank you.

  14. Sarah Longwell· Host0:57

    Uh, it was such a classic thing for you where I had to find out it was your birthday from somebody else, uh, and then I had to text Tim and you on our chain, uh, which you ignored until the following day, to say happy birthday. What is it about you and birthdays? Are you just... Do you not... Do you keep a low profile? Do you not tell people?

  15. JVL· Host1:16

    No, I, I love birthdays. Huge birthday fan.

  16. Sarah Longwell· Host1:21

    Oh.

  17. JVL· Host1:21

    I don't, like, I don't, I don't make a big deal about it externally, but, like, internally, we had an ice cream cake. Oh, ice cream cake.

  18. Sarah Longwell· Host1:29

    It's my fave.

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