S37 E8: Pick your side. Pick your story. | The Expert Witness
6/29/202634 min
Mosher explains that his Cybercheck technology was built to analyze open-source internet data using AI to generate investigative “intelligence,” not courtroom evidence. Mosher admits the company failed early on to clearly communicate those limits, allowing prosecutors to use Cybercheck as evidence, and he acknowledges the risks of relying on AI without independent verification. However, he defends the system’s value, denies wrongdoing, and attributes criticism to misunderstandings and aggressive defense attorneys. Despite mounting doubts—including inconsistencies in his claims, refusal to share source code, and questions about peer review—Mosher insists Cybercheck remains useful to law enforcement, while the interview leaves unresolved concerns about its reliability, transparency, and continued use. Mosher tells Sam he needs to speak to the people behind the curtain who are having success with it.
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Sam Mullins· Host0:34
[curious music] In the CyberCheck boardroom, as the air conditioning blew violently upon us, I turned my attention to check on Jeff. He was still there, sitting contentedly like a support dog as Mosher took me through the launch of CyberCheck and those first clients in law enforcement.
Adam Mosher· Guest0:57
We brought clients on from some in California, some in Florida, and some in Colorado.
Sam Mullins· Host1:05
Shout out to the folks we know in Colorado.
Adam Mosher· Guest1:07
Some good results, some bad experiences, some great client support, some not so gl- great client support. So it was a, a mix-match. We are either loved or we are absolutely hated. Until the agency can see that value add, we're of no use to them.
Sam Mullins· Host1:29
Wh- what do you