S2 EP 25 - Dogs, Cats, and the Neurodivergent Brain: You’ve Got a Friend in Me
5/5/202632 min
Plain Talk: Dogs, Cats, & the Neurodivergent Brain (Unscripted & Unedited) 🐶💕🐱🥹
This episode is a different one, y’all!
No outline.
No “cheat sheet.”
No editing out the pauses or the “you knows.” 🤓🤫
Just a real “plain” conversation. I thought it would be fun to see what happens without my safe bullet points.
💜 Give me about two minutes on this one—it settles in and gets really good. Besides, it’s all about FURRY FAMILY! 🤩 Animals are everything. Stepping out of your comfort zone can be a great experience.
Middle school is a time when life feels unpredictable—friendships shift, social rules change by the hour, and for neurodivergent kids, sensory overload can turn an ordinary day into a storm.
So why do animals help so much?
In this off-the-cuff episode, we talk about dogs and cats not as “pets,” but as teammates—partners that help regulate a child’s nervous system in real, measurable ways.
We break down the neuroscience in plain language:
Petting an animal can lower cortisol, raise oxytocin, and help the brain feel safer. The limbic system begins to settle. The world feels different.
Then we get into what almost sounds unbelievable about dogs—their ability to detect emotional states through scent, track routines by “smelling time,” respond to subtle pressure changes, and hear what the rest of us miss.
If you’ve ever felt like your dog knew you were having a bad day before you did… you’re not imagining it.
And yes—we give cats their due.
Cats aren’t “less social.” They’re selectively social—wired for predictable, low-pressure connection. From the slow blink to their carefully chosen moments of closeness, we explore why cats can be exactly what an anxious brain needs.
You’ll also hear stories about Neville, a little “street council” energy, and the very real truth about loving animals—even knowing loss is part of the deal.
💬 Tell me: which animal has helped you (or your child) feel safe?
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Suzanne M. Swain, EdS, LMSW
📧 suzanneswain@gmail.com
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Transcript preview
First 90 secondsSuzanne M. Swain· Host0:00
[upbeat music] Well, hey, y'all. It is a beautiful day to bust a few cognitive distortions. How's it going? My name is Suzanne M. Swain, EDS, LMSW, which is kinda just a big way of saying that I taught middle school for a long time and then became a therapist because of that, and a sociologist, and, and, and I love middle school. And neurodivergence together with middle school is my jam. So welcome, everybody, for your time and for listening to this podcast. It is a nonprofit. I make it myself on my own money. That's it. I'm just a person, so no company, no nothing. And the fact that y'all have supported it so much and all the messages I've received, keep 'em coming. I love to hear from you, and I may have a little something special for you at the end of the show where we can meet. How cool. But today, I'm feeling the feels. It's a rainy Saturday. I have my absolutely wonderful family of furry friends around me with Lieutenant Steve, hey, buddy, and chief security officer, of course, and my also little scrawny friend. Oh, Neville, you silly thing. [laughs] Neville, my little tabby cat that I've had for a long time, and I got him from a student, but I'll tell you about that later. So today I wanna talk about animals because I'm feeling the feels and feeling the love for the animals, so it's that oxytocin. But before we get started, I know my people just wanna preface this with saying that