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Piper PA-46 N85PG In-Flight Breakup, Westwind N1125A Crash + Other NTSB Reports

6/3/202650 min

Max Trescott and Rob Mark review a new NTSB recommendations for the FAA’s Runway Condition Assessment Matrix after wet-runway overruns showed that heavy rain can sharply reduce braking effectiveness.

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The episode then turns to several recent and preliminary accidents, including a Piper PA-28 N7188W loss-of-control crash at Akron-Fulton Airport, a Piper PA-32 Saratoga N5802N accident southwest of Empire, Nevada, a Diamond DA40 N787PV crash west of Elko, Nevada, and a North American AT-6 N29678 formation-flight crash near Bronson, Florida.

The final reports include three major lessons. In a Piper PA-28 N8438B crash at Muncie, Indiana, an instrument flight in an airplane not properly inspected for IFR ended in spatial disorientation after off-course maneuvering in IMC. In the IAI Westwind N1125A crash at Hot Springs, Virginia, the crew continued an unstabilized approach with altimeter, FMS, automation, and crew resource management problems. Finally, the Piper PA-46 N85PG in-flight breakup near Trout Creek, New York, shows the danger of continuing into convective weather, turbulence, and IMC while hand-flying.

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  1. Speaker 00:02

    Welcome to NTSB News Talk, where we talk about recent accidents from the past few weeks, newly released NTSB preliminary and final reports, and other safety-related news. The views expressed on this show are really just the opinions of the hosts and not the Aviation News Talk Network. This podcast is not affiliated with or endorsed by the NTSB, the National Transportation Safety Board. This podcast is for entertainment and education and is not a replacement for flight instruction. Now, here are your hosts, CFI and award-winning aviation journalist Rob Mark and Max Trescott, CFI and author who's trained as an accident investigator.

  2. Rob Mark· Host0:44

    Welcome to NTSB News Talk. I'm Rob Mark in Chicago, and I'm joined by my co-host, Max Trescott, out on the West Coast. How are you today, Max?

  3. Max Trescott· Host0:54

    Hey, Rob. Been really busy here doing lots of flying, doing well, and boy, do we have a ton of stories here today.

  4. Rob Mark· Host1:01

    Boy, we sure do, and I think one I'd really like to start with is that the NTSB released a notice just this last week about how airports and pilots, uh, assess runway conditions because the, uh, board felt that the current system probably wasn't quite up to snuff. So the NTSB issued three safety recommendations to the FAA aimed at improving its Runway Condition Assessment Matrix,

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