Pete Hegseth is Praying for a Holy War
4/3/202651 min
The U.S. has waged war on Iran for more than a month now. On this week’s On the Media, what Defense Secretary Hegseth’s monthly Pentagon prayer meetings reveal about his war strategy. Plus, hear how trans rights are being curtailed across the country.
[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Brian Kaylor, president and editor-in-chief of Word&Way and author of The Bible According to Christian Nationalists, to talk about Defense Secretary Hegseth’s monthly prayer meetings at the Pentagon. They discuss what the violent rhetoric reveals about Hegseth’s approach to war and why these meetings signal a troubling fusion of church and state.
[18:46] Brooke talks with Marlene Laruelle, professor at Luiss University in Rome and director of the Illiberalism Studies Program at George Washington University, about Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel’s series of lectures on religion, tech, politics, and society, which he took to the doorstep of the Vatican last month. They discuss his controversial beliefs about the antichrist, and what Thiel’s theology reveals about his desire to reorder politics.
[33:04] Brooke speaks with Alejandra Caraballo, civil rights attorney and a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, about the torrent of legal attacks against trans people, and why she's been looking toward a legal framework invented in the wake of Nazi Germany, called "the dual state," to better understand this moment.
Further reading / watching:
- “At Pentagon Worship Service, Hegseth Casts Iran Conflict as Violent Holy War Against God’s Enemies,” by Brian Kaylor
- “Peter Thiel in Rome: Is Liberalism Ready for the Return of God?” by Marlene Laruelle
- “The Dual State of Trans Existence,” by Alejandra Caraballo
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First 90 secondsBrian Kaylor· Guest0:00
Let every round find its mark Pete Hegseth's monthly Pentagon prayer meeting infuses worship with the furor of Christian nationalism What he's done is he's taken all these verses about violence out of context and thrown them all together From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media.
Brooke Gladstone· Host0:17
I'm Brooke Gladstone. Also on this week's show, in a fire and brimstone speech that predicts the coming of the Antichrist, billionaire Peter Thiel runs up against the Vatican's skepticism of AI An advisor to the pope on artificial intelligence published an essay this weekend saying, "Thiel's entire action could be read as a prolonged act of heresy against the liberal conscious" Plus, how America is employing a legal framework likened to one used in 1930s Germany to put part of its population in purgatory. It's all coming up after this. [upbeat music] From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media. Michael Loeffler's out this week. I'm Brooke Gladstone. On Wednesday night, President Trump stepped up to the podium in the White House to deliver his first national address about the US and Israel's war with Iran We are going to finish the job, and we're gonna finish it very fast.
Donald Trump· Soundbite1:21
We're getting very close Close to what?
Brooke Gladstone· Host1:23
He didn't exactly specify beyond broad claims that the US is removing the threat of a nuclear Iran,