Part One: Elizabeth Dilling: The Original Candace Owens

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Robert Evans· Host0:02

[upbeat music] Welcome back to Behind the Bastards. This is not the first episode of the podcast we've done this year during the official summer, but it's basically the official legal Christian summer. Right, guys? Team? Isn't it? It feels hot as hell outside today.

Sophie Lichterman· Host0:19

It's gonna... It's... But, but it, but it only for the next couple days, and then it's gonna be in the 60s.

Robert Evans· Host0:23

Oh, is it?

Sophie Lichterman· Host0:24

Yeah.

Robert Evans· Host0:24

Well, then- And then, and then, and then Mo- Ignore me ...

Sophie Lichterman· Host0:26

Mother Nature will water my garden, and I'm thrilled.

Robert Evans· Host0:29

Great. I'm glad that- My life can chime in here ... Oregon won't burn down yet. Yes, yes, please, Katie.

Sophie Lichterman· Host0:33

Oh, yeah, Katie, Katie Stoll's here. Legend.

Katie Stoll· Guest0:35

Hey, everybody.

Robert Evans· Host0:36

How hot and/or on fire is it where you are?

Sophie Lichterman· Host0:38

[laughs] Oh, yeah.

Katie Stoll· Guest0:39

Oh, ah, both of those things. I am in the mountains.

Robert Evans· Host0:43

Mm-hmm.

Katie Stoll· Guest0:43

But it is an unpleasant... Well, it's 85. It's 85.

Robert Evans· Host0:47

It's not too bad. Yeah.

Sophie Lichterman· Host0:48

Could be worse.

Katie Stoll· Guest0:49

We had some 90-degree days last week. But I moved to the mountains thinking it would be cooler, and boy was I wrong.

Robert Evans· Host0:55

[laughs] Yeah. It gets hot. It gets hot.

Katie Stoll· Guest0:57

And lots of burnable brush all around me as well.

Robert Evans· Host1:00

Uh-huh.

Katie Stoll· Guest1:00

So.

Robert Evans· Host1:00

Yeah. Everything catches on fire out there. That's the beauty of living out in the country.

Katie Stoll· Guest1:04

Yeah.

Robert Evans· Host1:05

Um- And they defunded one of my, um...

Katie Stoll· Guest1:07

They closed one of our fire stations. Anyway.

Sophie Lichterman· Host1:09

Oh, that's always reassuring.

Katie Stoll· Guest1:11

[laughs] So there's that.

Robert Evans· Host1:11

Oh, good. It's not like California needs a lot of those.

Sophie Lichterman· Host1:14

[laughs] [laughs] Wildfires.

Robert Evans· Host1:15

I'm, I'm only bringing up the summer 'cause I had my first... E- Every, every year when it gets hot again, I remember, "Okay, I gotta put on sunscreen before I go run this time." And then- Yeah ... 15 or so minutes into that first run of the year with sunscreen, I remember, "Oh, yeah, when you sweat with sunscreen, it