Pablo Torre: America’s Story is the Story of the Knicks
6/22/202651 min
Pablo Torre thinks sports are the “skeleton key.” The journalist and Pulitzer Prize-winning host of the podcast of “Pablo Torre Finds Out” joins Nicolle to talk about the potent power of the game: how sports weave their way through the political spiderweb, the colossal economic influence of a winning team franchise and how the game — any game — can bring people together and give strangers commonality. But Pablo is quick to call out the increasingly transactional lines between the economics of sports and politics, and he asks a simple but enduring question: “Who's getting rich?” He and Nicolle analyze the spectacle of a cage match on the White House lawn and the awkward reality of a World Cup host at war with a nation it's hosting. But they also celebrate the historic Knicks win against the Spurs, noting the pure joy emanating from New York City as a poignant example of why we are, perhaps, “a better country if we have more sports fans.” Ultimately, Pablo believes that sports are a throughline that connects us all — allowing a first-generation American born in New York and a California native to laugh about a bad Mets season.
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Pablo Torre· Guest0:50
It's public-private partnership, right? That's the euphemism. What that is is corruption.
Nicolle Wallace· Host0:56
Mm-hmm.
Pablo Torre· Guest0:56
This is not helping anybody. It's only making certain people rich. And for the American people, for the fans of mixed martial arts, for the fans in the audience who hear that guy say that about Michelle Obama, the question is, in this era in which so many people are suffering, who's winning? Who's getting rich? And you may notice that the people who are getting rich are the ones that are in fact transacting and using sports- Yeah ... using your emotional long-held heirlooms, your family heirlooms, for their own benefit. That's who's winning.