On Ariana Grande
6/21/202643 min
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An op-ed in The Telegraph this week grabbed our attention with the headline: Karen Carpenter offers a haunting warning for Ariana Grande fans. We thought maybe it was time to have an uncomfortable conversation about it.
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First 90 secondsMichelle Andrews· Host0:00
Before we get into this episode, just a heads-up that we are going to be discussing eating disorders today. For support, call the Butterfly National Helpline on 1800-E-D-HOPE, 1800-334-673, or visit www.butterfly.org.au to chat online or email seven days a week, 8:00 AM to midnight AEST. Lucid dreaming update.
Zara McDonald· Host0:27
Yes. Have you?
Michelle Andrews· Host0:28
No.
Zara McDonald· Host0:29
Oh.
Michelle Andrews· Host0:29
Finding it incredibly difficult to do the training.
Zara McDonald· Host0:33
Yeah.
Michelle Andrews· Host0:34
If people haven't listened to this Friday episode where we spoke about lucid dreaming, to catch you up very, very quickly, Zara's little brother trained himself in COVID to lucid dream. This was a revelation to Zara about a month ago. She didn't know this happened, but I tasked myself with the training, that Zara's pregnant, I would take it upon myself to try and lucid dream.
Zara McDonald· Host0:55
Thank you.
Michelle Andrews· Host0:55
And the training is I need to look at clocks all the time.
Zara McDonald· Host0:58
[laughs] [laughs] Yeah, we're actually... No, I'm not doing my due diligence of telling you- You're not ... what the clock is.
Michelle Andrews· Host1:02
Apart from when it's 11:11, you never tell me the time. [laughs] So you don't tell me the time. It's, I feel like I'm actually trying to do a lot solo- [laughs] ... for this podcast. Okay. My issue was is at the time I said, "Well, how good? I've got a child that often- Yeah ... wakes me up at 5:00 or 6:00." She's just sleeping through the night.
Zara McDonald· Host1:17
She's sleeping too well.
Michelle Andrews· Host1:18
She's sleeping through the ni- through the night. On the rare occasion she does wake me up, disaster, 'cause it's not like I wake up and I go, "One second."
Zara McDonald· Host1:25
Sorry, Sadie.
Michelle Andrews· Host1:26
[laughs] "What was my dream? Let me write, write down three words."
Zara McDonald· Host1:28
[laughs] I know you're crying and need