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‘Not a Perfect Union’: Neil Gorsuch on America at 250

5/6/202628 min

As the United States approaches its 250th anniversary, the columnist David French sits down with a fellow originalist, the Supreme Court justice Neil Gorsuch. The two discuss the radical nature of the country’s founding, its continuing influence on the court and why David sees the justice’s jurisprudence as “a combination of originalist and anti-bully.”

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This episode of “The Opinions” was produced by Jillian Weinberger with help from Derek Arthur. It was edited by Kaari Piktin and Alison Bruzek. Mixing by Pat McCusker. Video editing by Arpita Aneja, Kristen Williamson with help from Jan Kobal. The postproduction manager is Mike Puretz. Original music by Carole Sabouraud, Isaac Jones and Pat McCusker. Fact-checking by Julie Beer, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta and Kristina Samulewski. The director of Opinion Video is Jonah M. Kessel. The deputy director of Opinion Shows is Alison Bruzek. The director of Opinion Shows is Annie-Rose Strasser.

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    [Instrumental music] This is The Opinions, a show that brings you a mix of voices from New York Times Opinion. You've heard the news. Here's what to make of it.

  3. David French· Host0:39

    [Instrumental music] I'm David French. I'm an opinion columnist at The New York Times. When I had the opportunity to interview Justice Neil Gorsuch and his co-author Janie Nitze about their new children's book about the Declaration of Independence, I jumped at the chance, uh, for a couple of reasons. One, I'm always happy to talk about the American founding, and number two, it's always a wonderful opportunity to talk to a justice of the Supreme Court and to get to know more about where they're coming from and what they think. So the conversation you're about to hear was very interesting, but I have to give you some caveats. When you talk to a judge, it is not like talking to a politician.

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