Nobody Believed Orbán Could Lose. Then It Happened. (w/ H. David Baer)

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Bill Kristol· Host0:45

Hi, Bill Kristol here. Welcome to Bulwark on Sunday. I'm very pleased to be joined today by David Behr, a professor of theology and philosophy at Texas Lutheran University. I think he's been there for a quarter century, I think. It's amazing you're so young, but you must have begun when you were 12 years old or so- Am I?

H. David Baer· Guest1:00

I just look young. Yeah ...

Bill Kristol· Host1:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You must have begun when you were 12 years old or something. It's- Yeah [laughs] And, uh, David teaches on many topics of theology and philosophy. He's written a very good book on just war theory, a topic that's kind of come back into the news recently, uh, um, with the Pope and, and the Trump administration and so forth. But for us, uh, has written for The Bulwark, has written many times on Hungary, uh, where you've visited and lived and know the language and spent the election season there the last, uh, you know, about a month ago. And, um, uh, David, you were a- was ahead of the curve