nico and devon hase: Buddhist Volcanoes In Love
5/19/20261 hr 8 min
What does a lasting spiritual partnership actually look like—behind closed doors? Tami Simon speaks with nico and devon hase—married Buddhist teachers and co-authors of the new Sounds True book This Messy, Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist Guide to Lasting Partnership—about why real intimacy requires the willingness to be a little volcanic, a lot forgiving, and always, beautifully finding your balance rather than holding it.
This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One.
This episode is sponsored by Omega Institute, a global gathering hub for lifelong learning and spiritual exploration. Located in upstate New York’s beautiful Hudson Valley, Omega offers weekend workshops, special events, rest and rejuvenation retreats, professional trainings, online learning, and more. Discover what calls to you at eomega.org/true.
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First 90 secondsTami Simon· Host0:00
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Nico Hase· Guest0:02
[gentle music] If I look back from my deathbed, I'm gonna say, "Yes, I'm so glad that I stayed committed to my life partner" You know?
Devon Hase· Guest0:17
It's like things get really clear, and your priorities come into focus when you realize we don't know how long we have. And so I would much rather love them and express that, and let the petty resentments go.
Tami Simon· Host0:29
Welcome, friends. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, my guests are Nico and Devin Haza. They are married Buddhist teachers who have each done a considerable amount of solitary meditation practice. They help couples face and blossom in the truth about long-term relationships. Nico lived in a monastery for six years before earning a PhD in counseling psychology and becoming a full-time insight meditation teacher. Devin has practiced intensively in the insight and Vajrayana traditions of meditation, and she teaches at IMS, Spirit Rock, and more. They are co-authors of a previous book, How Not to Be a Hot Mess, and a new Sounds True book, This Messy, Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist