Nicholas Kristof: What a Mess Trump Created
4/24/202653 min
Not only is the new hardline regime in Tehran now more likely to go rogue as a nuclear power a la North Korea, ordinary Iranians—who Trump and Bibi initially claimed we were rescuing—are also living under even harsher conditions. At the same time, the war has burned through billions worth of our critical weapons stockpile, a development that surely will figure into China’s calculations vis‐à‐vis Taiwan. This is the moment for Dems to reshape their brand and win back everyday working Americans. Plus, the settlers’ escalating attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank, the Trump administration’s depraved treatment of Afghan refugees, any talk of aid for UAE stinks of Trump family corruption, and Dems need to fix their blue places while simultaneously working to win voters in the red ones.
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First 90 secondsTim Miller· Host0:00
[upbeat music] Hello, and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back to the show a columnist for The New York Times, two-time winner of the Pulitzer Prize. His latest book, Chasing Hope, is a memoir. He's also the general manager of Kristof Farms in Oregon. He briefly ran for governor of Oregon also in twenty twenty-two, with a bunch of other stuff. It's Nick Kristof. How you doing, man?
Nicholas Kristof· Guest0:32
Hey, good. Good to be with you, Tim.
Tim Miller· Host0:34
I'm pumped to talk to you. Uh, you were just back from the West Bank, uh, so we're gonna get into that and, and maybe some politics, but obviously I wanna start with the Iran war stuff. I guess I kind of just wanna begin by letting you cook on what you think, uh, is the state of play in the Iran war and, and how you assess where we are today.
Nicholas Kristof· Guest0:50
Boy, I mean, well, what a mess. Uh, you know, we got into this war unnecessarily, and now we're in a worse position than when we started. You know, we're now trying to get the Strait of Hormuz reopened, um, and I think it's actually more likely that Iran will end up with nuclear weapons, say, you know, three or five years from now than at the start of the war. You know, at the-- Right before the war, Iran was actually offering a pretty good nuclear deal, and we turned it down. We're not gonna get as good a deal now, I believe. I think Iran is gonna try to, uh, really hold on to some kind of control over