Navy SEAL: “Not Killing People Is Hard” - DJ Shipley - #1112
6/18/20263 hr 1 min
DJ Shipley is a retired Navy SEAL and former DEVGRU operator. What's life like after the Navy SEALs? After years of operating at the highest level, many veterans face a challenge they never expected: returning to normal life. When the adrenaline, purpose, and brotherhood disappear overnight, how do you find your footing again? Expect to learn what the hardest part about leaving military life behind is, why it’s so hard to turn off trained military hyper-vigilance, how DJ would end the war in Iran fast, the story of DJ’s suicide attempt and his path to redemption, how DMT saved DJ’s life, why divorce is just the cost of doing business as a Navy SEAL and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get up to 20% off Timeline powered by Mitopure (now at a lower price) at https://timeline.com/modernwisdom Gymshark's Summer Sale starts June 18th. Get up to 60% off sitewide at https://gym.sh/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM10) Get the brand new Whoop 5.0 and your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom Get ChatGPT to explore ideas, solve problems, and learn faster at https://chatgpt.com Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: lnkfi.re/SN-Goggins #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: lnkfi.re/SN-Peterson #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: lnkfi.re/SN-Huberman
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First 90 secondsChris Williamson· Host0:00
You've done a lot of hard things in your life Couple Why was getting out of the military the hardest thing that you've had to do?
DJ Shipley· Guest0:08
No one ever prepared you for it. When you get in the teams, any military, but especially special operations, it becomes your identity. It becomes the only thing you do, and it becomes a justification for everything you don't do. Like, why don't you do this? Oh, because it'll affect the end state. When you transition away from it, you never thought it was going to be hard. You thought you were gonna transition, you were gonna find that same love and passion, the energy you had for being in the military. And then when you don't find it, it's a huge fall from grace. But I mean, you hear these fairy tales of this billionaire's gonna pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars to live on his ranch and to do nothing but tell war stories and shoot coyotes and whatever. You know, any, any place you want to go, they'll pick you up because of your background, because of your resume and all these different things. And when you get out, you quickly realize that's all a lie. No one's gonna pay you to do a compound assault. No one's gonna pay you to skydive. No one's gonna pay you to assault a cruise ship or whatever else you did. They don't exist. So I've spent my entire adult life developing a skill set nobody wants. What am I supposed to do now? I don't know how to do anything. You want me to go to Home Depot? Like, what am I supposed to do? I've avoided getting my picture taken for 20 years. I've avoided conversations with normal people. I don't have a Rolodex because I've never opened myself up to anybody who wasn't inside of that 12-man team.
Chris Williamson· Host1:27
Yeah.
DJ Shipley· Guest1:28
I don't have anybody. I don't know the