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Meeting the Toolbox killer: Candice Fox Pt. 1

3/28/202656 min

Author Candice Fox doesn't just write crime; she lives it through research for her books, including a chilling five-hour, "full-contact" visit in a San Quentin jail with one of America’s worst serial killers, the notorious "Toolbox Killer.”

In this episode of I Catch Killers, Candice gives host Gary Jubelin a peek into a childhood she calls a madhouse…growing up with more than 150 foster siblings and a father who worked as a parole officer, giving her a glimpse into humanity’s darkest corners before she even hit double digits. Hear how she channels real‑world evil into compelling stories.

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  1. Gary Jubelin· Host0:00

    [rock music] The public has had a long-held fascination with detectives. Detectives see a side of life the average person is never exposed to. I spent thirty four years as a cop. For twenty-five of those years, I was catching killers. That's what I did for a living. I was a homicide detective. I'm no longer just interviewing bad guys, instead I'm taking the public into the world in which I operated. The guests I talk to each week have amazing stories from all sides of the law. The interviews are raw and honest, just like the people I talk to. Some of the content and language might be confronting. That's because no one who comes into contact with crime is left unchanged. Join me now as I take you into this world. [rock music] Most people go on honeymoons to relax. Candace Fox goes to San Quentin to hang out with serial killers. She's an award-winning force of nature I'm happy to call a friend, and one of the sharpest minds in crime writing. Today, we're diving into the real-life murders that fuel her darkest plots. This is Candace Fox. Candace Fox, welcome to I Catch Killers.

  2. Candice Fox· Guest1:10

    Hi, Gary. Thanks for having me.

  3. Gary Jubelin· Host1:12

    Well, I, I'm excited about, uh, getting you on. We've got a lot to, uh, lot to talk about. I think our paths first crossed when we were, uh, or when we-- I was out of the cops at a writers festival- Mm. -or whatever.

  4. Candice Fox· Guest1:23

    That sounds right.

  5. Gary Jubelin· Host1:24

    That's where we-- uh, you were the well-known, established, uh- [laughs] -fictional crime writer.

  6. Candice Fox· Guest1:29

    Yeah.

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