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Matt Bevan on the history you think you know

4/29/202652 min

The ABC journalist explains how competing, overlapping narratives and outright myths form our understanding of events of the past, featuring an impersonation of Winston Churchill talking about a lemon tree.

Matt presents and writes the ABC TV show and podcast “If You’re listening”, where he says he explains the world’s most important stories while hiding in his basement from assassins and authoritarian regimes.

He applies his Australian lens on major turning points in history; the villains, visionaries and vanquished and invites us to question what we think we know about the world. 

From the assassination of Julius Ceaser to the collapse of the Soviet Union, Matt has uncovered unknown, often bizarre and at times laughable tales swirling in the murky waters of history.

Further information

If You're Listening: Declassified is published by HarperCollins.

You can watch and listen to Matt's program, If You're Listening. 

This episode was produced by Alice Moldovan. The Executive Producer is Eliza Kirsch.

It covers world politics, Trump, Putin, Winston Churchill, Matthias Rust, Red Square, Iron Curtain, Soviet Union, Chernobyl, M Gessen, Yevgeny Prigozhin, Wagner Group, Cessna, Yalta Conference, Stalin, Alexander Downer, Papadopoulos, Hillary Clinton, hinge moments, the butterfly effect, 

To binge even more great episodes of the Conversations podcast with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski go the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

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  1. Annabel Crabb0:00

    Hello, I'm Annabel Crabb. Now, I wouldn't say I'm a hoarder exactly, but I do hang on to things. It's not just you and me. Australia's oldest library is crammed with stuff that isn't books. Terrible paintings, old menus, human hair. Is this history or hoarding? Come and have a rummage through the story of us told by our stuff. Search for the History or Hoarding podcast on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts.

  2. Speaker 10:29

    ABC Listen, podcasts, radio, news, music and more.

  3. Richard Fidler· Host0:35

    In the United States, they've got this national holiday called Columbus Day to commemorate the Italian explorer Christopher Columbus, who it was said discovered America in fourteen ninety-two. Except that America didn't need discovering because people had been living there for thousands of years. And Columbus wasn't the first European to get there anyway. A Viking named Leif Erikson made the voyage from Iceland to North America a full five hundred years before that. And Columbus didn't even land on the North American mainland. He set foot on a Caribbean island. And I think that in the end, the Leif Erikson saga is way more fun than the Columbus story, which ends in disease and mass slavery. Matt Bevan is with me today. Matt loves fact-checking these kinds of claims that sort of stick in the mind that aren't really quite true. He

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